PAL renewal question

[ultimaix]

If your renewal is in the system and you do not have the licence in your hand at the end of the 6 months you are okay. The last time I went thru this the cfo told me if the card does not show up to call them and they said until I get it please do not take the guns out anywhere. The card showed up the day before.

You may be correct, but that is not what I see written about the grace period.
Actually what I read is the grace period is for 'US', incase we forget to renew in time.
Not for the RCMP to use to drag out the renewal times.
And I read it as 'I' am solely held responsible for having firearms 6 months after my PAL expires.
Unless you know something different than I can find?
I have tried looking...

[RELOAD]

You may be correct, but that is not what I see written about the grace period.
Actually what I read is the grace period is for 'US', incase we forget to renew in time.
Not for the RCMP to use to drag out the renewal times.
And I read it as 'I' am solely held responsible for having firearms 6 months after my PAL expires.
Unless you know something different than I can find?
I have tried looking...

After you have sent in the renewal it is out of your hands. How are you than held responsible.

[ultimaix]

There is what makes sense...
And then there is the law...

The burden in court would be up to me to prove that the law does not apply to me.
That's really not a good position to be in...
(it is not my fault I possess a firearm with a licence, its the RCMP's fault for not renewing on time)

Because of liability reasons the cop (at minimum) isn't going to let you leave with the firearm.
He may arrest you and tow your car if he does not believe you.
You get to spend money in court...
Why?
Because you cannot prove what you say to a cop at that moment on the side of the road.

You have good advice about keeping copies of everything.
But most of us do not do that.
LOL

[spider69]

With an RPAL,conditions are printed on it,therefore,you must carry it with you. With a PAL,there's only a blank piece of paper. Why would it be required that we carry a blank? Toss it.....common sense.

[ultimaix]

With an RPAL,conditions are printed on it,therefore,you must carry it with you. With a PAL,there's only a blank piece of paper. Why would it be required that we carry a blank? Toss it.....common sense.

I agree !
And on the back of the plastic RPAL or PAL there is a 'Conditions' section.
So why would we need to carry both ?

The issue I have is:
- this this a law?
- what is the penalty for not carrying this piece of paper?
- Can we laminate it?

Or are these just words on a piece of paper with no regulation or law backing it?
It states we need to be licenced, but I cannot find what we are required to produce to prove it.

What conditions do you have on your RPAL ?
I don't have any conditions on my RPAL.

[ESnel]

I don't have any conditions on my RPAL.

Yes you do, the attached conditions pertain to the ATT. It states what ATT conditions are automaticly covered and which conditions you nedd to apply for an ATT to transport a restricted firearm.

[ultimaix]

Yes you do, the attached conditions pertain to the ATT. It states what ATT conditions are automaticly covered and which conditions you nedd to apply for an ATT to transport a restricted firearm.

I have a RPAL but I have never owned a restricted weapon.
So both my licence and the conditions paper are blank?
(maybe this is adding to my confusion...)

Question
Are the conditions on your piece of paper also on the back of your licence?

[RangeBob]

I have a RPAL but I have never owned a restricted weapon.
So both my licence and the conditions paper are blank?

If you have an RPAL, you should have the piece of paper. It came with your licence card.

Are the conditions on your piece of paper also on the back of your licence?

No. They are different. The wording on the paper is more extensive, and
the words/wording it says are prescribed by law. The CFO is required to say those exact things, and they do.

[ultimaix]

I found a copy of Varsil post from Reddit here:
Someone should put this in your sticky section.
The guy has done his homework on this.

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...onditions-quot

[stevebc]

1) I think you're way too worried about this.

2) Again, yes- you can laminate them.