View Poll Results: What firearm would you choose as a survival weapon given one choice?

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  • 22lr rifle

    20 21.28%
  • Shotgun

    26 27.66%
  • Centerfire semiautomatic rifle

    24 25.53%
  • Pistol carbine

    6 6.38%
  • Bolt action centerfire rifle

    18 19.15%
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    Senior Member M1917 Enfield's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustBen View Post
    Where do I buy this? Do they make custom caliber?
    There are about 4 or 5 different makers of very similar shotgun adaptors/inserts and at least one in Alaska -
    http://www.mcace.com/shotguninserts.htm that does custom orders and will make up rifled adaptors/inserts in what ever length and calibre that is feasible and ships to Canada!

    These sponsor dealers sells the sets in Canada -

    http://www.grouseriver.com/X-Caliber...o-8GA-Calibers

    http://www.theammosource.com/index.p...oducts_id=4806

    And you can also get them from Wanstalls for about $60 more.

    This maker http://gaugemate.com/info/sub-gauge-adapters in the states makes them in multiple configurations and sells and ships to Canada and I have had no issues with Customs allowing them. The only issues is that they now seem to take the order and then make them when they have a batch of orders and you can wait up to 4 months for delivery! They are first class products and about the cheapest and very friendly and helpful to deal with.

    They are the original makers of the X-Cailber inserts sold by others. They call the set the Pocket Arsenal -

    http://gaugemate.com/adapters/arsenal

    You can sometimes find them on e-bay too!

    If anybody is interested in a stainless 7" long .22lr to 12 gauge rifled insert I have a spare that I would sell. It is new never used, I bought it on my last order of some other inserts I wanted and for a buddy. He could not wait and ended up buying the set above which has a .22 Lr in it already.
    Last edited by M1917 Enfield; 04-27-2017 at 10:38 PM.

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    Last edited by M1917 Enfield; 04-27-2017 at 10:43 PM.

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    Some of those adapters maybe discontinued​ due to chamber excessive pressures. Shotgun MCP (12g) 12000 psi and rifle MCP (30-06) 60000 psi. Shoguns are made for much lower MCP.

    FYI
    Maxime Bernier

    Walter: "No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of".

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    Quote Originally Posted by deerbeargrouse View Post
    Some of those adapters maybe discontinued​ due to chamber excessive pressures. Shotgun MCP (12g) 12000 psi and rifle MCP (30-06) 60000 psi. Shoguns are made for much lower MCP.

    FYI
    Your right that not every 12 gauge shot gun will do! Maybe they discontinued the .308 win ones because people fired them in 100 year old crappy singleshot shotguns!

    Some single shot shotguns are stronger than most think.



    But what needs consideration is the shotguns original chamber pressure capacity is doubled, tripled or more by the thick Insert/adaptors own chamber walls. What you have is a chamber within a chamber with them. The rear back thrust pressure is also less with a smaller case head over the large surface area of a 12 gauge shell.

    The most important considerations is the age of your shotgun, the thickness of the steel behind the case-head, the strength of the lock up and the firing pin hole size.

    I made sure I got a H&R single shot shotgun that is made on their SB2 receiver, the same SB2 receiver as a H&R Handirifle which is chambered in calibres like .270 Win. etc. so I am sure I am safe to keep firing!

    All the 12 gauge H&R slug hunter shotguns have the SB2 special heat treated receiver over the less strong SB1 receiver on their 410 and 20 gauge and non slug hunter 12 gauge ones.

    H&R marks which it is in front of the serial number.

    http://www.hr1871.com/firearms/shotguns/ultraslug.asp

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    M1917 Enfield

    Thanks for that information, very interesting.

    I'm a fan of H&R long guns.
    Maxime Bernier

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    1- .308 anything with your own ammo, 2- 22lr survival rifle, 3- .223 anything seeing as how so many people "here" have them, ammo should be around

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