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    Quote Originally Posted by tinman304 View Post
    Great. Next question, what is the difference between the AR10 and AR102?
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    AR 102 is based on the original AR 10, which is non restricted in Canada. What most manufacturers call an AR 10 these days is a scaled up AR 15, which is restricted in Canada due to being derived from the AR 15.

    In a nutshell anyway..... A lot of parts from the original AR 10 are not compatible with much of the modern AR 10 from what I understand....
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinman304 View Post
    Great. Next question, what is the difference between the AR10 and AR102?
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    Well the AR10 is restricted by name.

    Also unlike AR-15 which is highly compatible between manufactures the 308 AR family is not.

    Likely one of the earliest test done on the AR102 would be to fit it on the various 308 AR lowers available along with testing uppers to see if they match up.

    While the AR102 might share compatibility on some components,possible the triggers(speculation on my part) other parts will not. Even within the 308 AR family one cannot combine an AR-10 lower with a DPMS(308) upper.

    While the AR-15 is known as the Lego gun the 308 AR is more akin to metric/imperial and maybe some Whitworth depending on who built it and when.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennymo View Post
    A lot of parts from the original AR 10 are not compatible with much of the modern AR 10 from what I understand....
    The two main groups are the 308 DPMS and the Armalite AR10, with DPMS making up the lion's share of the market.





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    Quote Originally Posted by kennymo View Post
    AR 102 is based on the original AR 10, which is non restricted in Canada. What most manufacturers call an AR 10 these days is a scaled up AR 15, which is restricted in Canada due to being derived from the AR 15.

    In a nutshell anyway..... A lot of parts from the original AR 10 are not compatible with much of the modern AR 10 from what I understand....
    Probably the best short sum up of the matter.


    The AR10 design stayed mostly frozen in time as the 556 AR15 kept rolling for decades. It wasn't until Reed Knight of Knights Armament re-introduced it in the early 90's that the design started rolling again. That was the "AR10" standard for a long time which many other manufactures still build to, except that is sort of a cross between the two rifles, in many ways a scaled up AR15.
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    Anyone know what the overall length of this is? Building a new carbine cabinet and I need to make sure it will fit...

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    For those that are following this

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    Quote Originally Posted by ESnel View Post
    Well the AR10 is restricted by name.

    Also unlike AR-15 which is highly compatible between manufactures the 308 AR family is not.

    Likely one of the earliest test done on the AR102 would be to fit it on the various 308 AR lowers available along with testing uppers to see if they match up.

    While the AR102 might share compatibility on some components,possible the triggers(speculation on my part) other parts will not. Even within the 308 AR family one cannot combine an AR-10 lower with a DPMS(308) upper.

    While the AR-15 is known as the Lego gun the 308 AR is more akin to metric/imperial and maybe some Whitworth depending on who built it and when.
    The original Dutch made AR-10s are prohibited if made as selective fire. Current AR-10ish .308 rifles are restricted because they are basically AR-15s enlarged where needed, and are therefore AR-15 variants. There are different versions of AR-15 based .308 rifles.
    NEA managed to convince the SFSS that their 102 is essentially a modern version of the original semi auto AR-10 and is not a reworked AR-15 design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weasel View Post
    The original Dutch made AR-10s are prohibited if made as selective fire. Current AR-10ish .308 rifles are restricted because they are basically AR-15s enlarged where needed, and are therefore AR-15 variants. There are different versions of AR-15 based .308 rifles.
    NEA managed to convince the SFSS that their 102 is essentially a modern version of the original semi auto AR-10 and is not a reworked AR-15 design.
    Which shows you how retarded our classification system and the idiots at the SFSS are because the AR10 came before the AR15, without the AR10 you wouldn't have the AR15 or it wouldn't look anything/work anything like one.


    Just like the Valmet thing, AK's are universally prohibited except Valmets are not and Valmets are AK's. You can't make a new Valmet though because that would be an AK, but it would be a new Valmet, which is an AK.


    Imagine if Honda made Honda's Honda's like Honda's were Honda's back when they were Honda's.

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    Just like the Valmet thing, AK's are universally prohibited except Valmets are not and Valmets are AK's. You can't make a new Valmet though because that would be an AK, but it would be a new Valmet, which is an AK.
    Man, why couldn't the government have gifted the Inuit a pile of AR 15's right before starting in on ridiculous gun legislation instead of Valmets......
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    Quote Originally Posted by kennymo View Post
    Man, why couldn't the government have gifted the Inuit a pile of AR 15's right before starting in on ridiculous gun legislation instead of Valmets......
    Then all AR-15's will be prohibited unless they are Diemaco, pretty much we'll have 3000 dollar AR-15s cause we can only have one maker right?

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