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    Lightbulb NEA 102 FAQ Thread

    Hi Folks,

    Since there are so many questions (many the same ones) on different threads I am going to try to post all answers in this thread so people can reference it. As new info comes out it will be updated.



    Presales for late Sept currently on at sfrc.

    MSRP: 1750

    NEA/BCL 102 known Specs:

    Made in Canada

    Classification: NON-RESTRICTED

    Operating system: Direct Impingement

    Calibers: Chambered to accept 308 WIN and 7.62x51 NATO, other calibers to come in the future

    Barrel: 1/10 Twist fluted, 5/8x24 threaded muzzle with brake installed.

    Gas Block: 0.875"

    QD Mounts: integral to handguard and 6 Position Collapsing Stock

    Handguard: M-Lok Forend (yes rails can be added to it..)

    Stock: NEA 6 position stock

    Pistol Grip: A2 Pistol Grip

    Paint type: Cerakoted

    Receiver: Forged Aluminium

    Dry Weight: 8.9lbs

    Colours available: Black, Olive Drab Green, Flat Dark Earth

    Barrel Nut and Buffer Tube: The buffer tube thread milspec, however it uses an AAR-10 style buffer tube see here: https://forum.308ar.com/topic/10133-...s-and-springs/ and the front thread for the barrel nut is 1-7/16 x 18 UNEF-2B (Armalite compatible barrel nut)


    Magazine Compatibility: DPMS metal mags don't work because of the thick wall at the front of the magazine where the metal wraps around, IMI, PMAGs, and XCR-M mags should work

    XCR-M magazines may need to be modified to work as shown below. The magazine on the left is an example of a functional magazine, and the one on the right will not work properly in a BCL-102. If it is needed, filing of the area shown in the photo will make the magazine functional.



    Common questions:

    How is this rifle different than an AR-15 or AR-10?

    The history is kind of mudded up, I need to look into the exact lineage further. The short of it is, the AR-102 preceded the AR-15 and since it is the AR-15 that is classed restricted, the AR-102 is not affected and is thus classed as non-restricted.

    Will it fit .308 style aftermarket charging handles?

    YES

    Will it accept an A2 style stock and buffer tube?

    UNKNOWN

    What types of magazines does it take?

    Standard SR25 style magazines (pmag, iwi, XCR-M, etc), please see above for magazine compatibility.

    Are controls ambidextrous?

    On the second generation they should be, however on the first generation they have an ambidextrous safety but not an ambidextrous magazine release or bolt release.

    Will it come out in .223?

    NO PLANS FOR A .223, 300blk, OR ANY OTHER CALIBER BASED ON THE .223 PARENT CARTRIDGE

    Why not?

    Fear that that rifle will be classed as restricted because it would be deemed an AR-15 Variant. The only reason the NEA 102 is Non-Restricted is because the design predates the AR-10 and AR-15 designs and therefore is not a variant of either.

    So what parts inter change?
    Trigger groups and stocks. Also, the buffer tube is Mil Spec AR-10 and the front thread for the barrel nut is 1-7/16 x 18 UNEF-2B which means it is Armalite compatible (thanks slim123 for this info)


    Will it come with a forward assist? Is a forward assist really needed?
    No it does not, and no it is not needed at all.

    How dirty does the action get from the gas system?
    Dirty enough that it must be maintained every few hundred rounds (preferably less) for reliable operation.

    Is a guy stuck using upper parts from NEA or does an upper casting exist from elsewhere that can be built to fit and function with the lower?
    The NEA receiver design is proprietary.

    So any ar-15 trigger group will work?
    Yes, as long as it is AR-10 compatible, which most are.

    When will additional uppers be available?
    There is no ETA

    Does it use an existing or proprietary barrel design?
    No one knows for sure, however NEA claims it is proprietary.

    Does anyone know where these are made? Built assembled in Canada or??
    Made, built and assembled in Canada minus some minor parts

    Which parts/components aren't manufactured in Canada?
    We are being told that the trigger group is the only component not made in Canada

    What stocks and buffer tubes are compatible?
    Ar-10 (armalite) milspec buffer tubes, and any mil spec stock that accepts those buffer tubes. For collapsible stocks, anything milspec should fit. Fixed stocks may require some research.

    And some other good information:

    Weight Comparision
    nea102 - 18.5" - 8.9lb
    sr25 e2 apr - 20" - 10.5lbs
    sr25acc - 16" - 8.4lbs
    S&W m&p10 - 18" - 7.7lb
    dpms g2 recon - 16" - 8.5lb
    sig716 dmr - 16" - 8.5lbs

    And for those nervous about having some confusion from our law enforcement friends on whether it is classified as restricted or non restricted:

    NEA 102:



    BCL 102:





    Thank you to those individuals that contributed to this thread to make it more comprehensive!
    Last edited by driller212; 08-22-2017 at 07:51 AM.

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    Man, that really chaps me when the FRT says that NEA102 variations are "claimed" to be based on... You're the "experts", and you've taken how long to examine it and you just can't bring yourself to say that it IS based on the AR102.

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    NEA also stated that all the rifles will come with a printed copy of the FRT as well

    BCL102FRT.jpg

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    Some photos from one of the first to receive theirs:















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    my such a big mag you have...

    for 5 measly rounds!

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    Id like to know whether the 3bucc brass catcher I use will work on it.

    ...I should probably just write the company and ask about ar10 fit...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark-II View Post
    Id like to know whether the 3bucc brass catcher I use will work on it.

    ...I should probably just write the company and ask about ar10 fit...


    Why wouldn't it? It uses pic rail.

    Do you have the forward mounting one or rear mounting? I have the rear mount one which is more flexible in where you can mount it, the front mounting one might give you issues depending on it's placement on the forward rail and if the brass bag will catch on the shell deflector.

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    I give this gun 2 years till it's on the chopping block, mind you I still want one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdod101 View Post
    I give this gun 2 years till it's on the chopping block, mind you I still want one.
    Why is that?

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    Pure speculation. I would fight tooth and nail should they come after our hobby again. I guarantee I would make it a full time job.

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