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    Reserve power options

    In another thread, there is talk of NG supply being compromised, temporarily depleted, etc.

    So how about some of the better fall back options that are under $5k, and somewhat flexible. So solar, micro hydro, etc are pretty much out. Wth those already, youíre not too dependent on local infrastructure for support anyway.

    1 Gas/diesel generator (includes your welding trucks)

    2 PTO generator - needs a tractor or similar first but may be better than #1 in some cases

    3 wood heat - furnace/fireplace. not flexible

    4 Plumbing a reserve tank as part of the system to give you capacity after gas pressure drops for that area. Not flexible, and itís typically thought that the pressure would last for a while as not many people would be drawing on it if there is no electricity for most ignition systems

    5 can propane tanks be used to run NG in a pinch? I know different ports/jets should be used, but just how interchangeable are they?

    What else is out there?

    As an aside, I saw a Stirling hit n miss engine in a southern SK town sitting on a pallet by their trash bins. Doubt itís being thrown out, and the collectors wouldnít touch it for weight either.

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    5. Natural gas/Propane can be interchangeable but there’s some parts swapping involved. Orifice size will change, and you’ll need suitable pressure regulators depending on your propane source. (And maybe a different gas valve on heating appliances?) I know some BBQ’s now come with inaccessible orifices, but I think most of the heating equipment is still convertible....

    I’d think an alternative heating device on propane might be a better simpler option? Or there are kerosene convection heaters that can be used (relatively safely) indoors and don’t require power for a fan.

    Stirling hit and miss?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kennymo View Post
    5. Natural gas/Propane can be interchangeable but there’s some parts swapping involved. Orifice size will change, and you’ll need suitable pressure regulators depending on your propane source. (And maybe a different gas valve on heating appliances?) I know some BBQ’s now come with inaccessible orifices, but I think most of the heating equipment is still convertible....

    I’d think an alternative heating device on propane might be a better simpler option? Or there are kerosene convection heaters that can be used (relatively safely) indoors and don’t require power for a fan.

    Stirling hit and miss?
    Ok, so there really isn’t a good way to swap propane and NG in an outage sort of situation, especially safely.

    As for the sterlings, this might be the best explanation



    Still used on a lot of fishing boats (LW should be able to confirm)

    And has a large following is some areas. They’re almost always on display at exhibitions, antique tractor shows, tractor pulls, etc.

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    ^^ Yeah, there’s one of those decorating the lawn at the farm (cracked piston), but it’s not a Stirling motor. Grandpa used to have about ten hit and miss motors in running condition in his shop.
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    going to be replacing my gas generators at the ranch with a solar power pack combination,, will power 110v LED lights, LED TV, laptops, charge phones, and other small electrical devices.

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    panel will recharge the power pack during the day and we can draw power 24 and 7

    we use very little electric power as fridge and stove are propane

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