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Drache
12-30-2013, 02:31 PM
AK-47: It works though you have never cleaned it once every couple years.
AR-15: You have a special cleaner and use it after every day.
Mosin: It was last cleaned in Berlin in 1945

AK-47: You are able to hit the broad side of a barn from inside
AR-15: You are able to hit the broad side of a barn from 600 meters
Mosin: You can hit the farm from two counties over

AK-47: Cheap mags are fun to buy
AR-15: Cheap mags melt
Mosin: You know what a clip actually is!

AK-47: Your safety can be heard from 300 meters away
AR-15: You can silently flip off the safety with your finger on the trigger
Mosin: What's a safety?

AK-47: Your rifle comes with a cheap nylon sling
AR-15: Your rifle has a 9 point stealth tactical suspension system
Mosin: You rifle has dog collar

AK-47: Your bayonet makes a good wire cutter
AR-15: Your bayonet is actually a pretty good steak knife
Mosin: Your bayonet can stab someone on the other side of the room

AK-47: You can put a .30" hole through 12" of oak, if you can hit it
AR-15: You can put one hole in a paper target at 100 meters with 30 rounds
Mosin: You can knock down everyone else's target with the shock wave of your bullet going downrange

AK-47: When out of ammo your rifle will nominally pass as a club
AR-15: When out of ammo, your rifle makes a great wiffle bat
Mosin: When out of ammo, your rifle makes a supreme war club, pike, boat oar, tent pole, or firewood

AK-47: Recoil is manageable, even fun
AR-15: What's recoil?
Mosin: Recoil is often used to relocate shoulders thrown out by the previous shot

AK-47: Your rifle can be used by any two bit nation's most illiterate conscripts to fight elite forces worldwide.
AR-15: Your rifle is used by elite forces worldwide to fight two bit nations' most illiterate conscripts
Mosin: Your rifle has fought against itself and won every time

AK-47: Your rifle won some revolutions
AR-15: Your rifle won the Cold War
Mosin: Your rifle won a pole vault event

AK-47: You buy cheap ammo by the case
AR-15: You lovingly reload precision crafted rounds one by one
Mosin: You dig your ammo out of a farmer's field in Ukraine and it works just fine

AK-47: Service life, 50 years
AR-15: Service life, 30 years
Mosin: Service life, 100 years, and counting

AK-47: It's easier to buy a new rifle when you want to change cartridge sizes
AR-15: You can change cartridge sizes with the push of a couple of pins and a new upper
Mosin: You believe no real man would dare risk the ridicule of his friends by suggesting to shhot anything but 7.62x54r from an Mosin

AK-47: You can repair your rifle with a big hammer and a swift kick
AR-15: ou can repair your rifle by taking it to a certified gunsmith, it's under warranty!
Mosin: If your rifle breaks, you buy a new one

AK-47: You consider it a badge of honor when you get your handguards to burst into flames
AR-15: You consider it a badge of honor when you shoot a sub-MOA 5 shot group
Mosin: You consider it a badge of honor when you cycle 5 rounds without the aid of a 2x4

AK-47: After a long day the range you relax by watching "Red Dawn"
AR-15: After a long day at the range you relax by watching "Blackhawk Down"
Mosin: After a long day at the range you relax by visiting the chiropractor

AK-47: After cleaning your rifle you have a strong urge for a stiff shot of Vodka
AR-15: After cleaning your rifle you have a strong urge for hotdogs and apple pie
Mosin: After cleaning your rifle you have a strong urge for shishkabob

AK-47: You can accessorize you rifle with a new muzzle brake or a nice stock set
AR-15: Your rifle's accessories are eight times more valuable than your rifle
Mosin: Your rifle's accessory is a small tin can with a funny lid, but it's buried under an apartment building somewhere in Budapest

AK-47: Your rifle's finish is varnish and paint
AR-15: Your rifle's finish is Teflon and high tech polymers
Mosin: our rifle's finish is low grade shellac, cosmoline and Olga's toe nails

AK-47: Your wife tolerates your autographed framed picture of Mikhail Kalashnikov
AR-15: Your wife tolerates your autographed framed picture of Eugene Stoner
Mosin: You're not sure there WERE cameras to photograph Sergei Mosin


AK-47: Late at night you sometimes have to fight the urge to hold your rifle over your head and shout "Wolverines!"
AR-15: Late at night you sometimes have to fight the urge to clear your house, slicing the pie from room to room.
Mosin: Late at night, you sometimes have to fight the urge to dig a fighting trench in the the yard to sleep in.

AK-47: You can pick off a deer pretty easy at 300 meters
AR-15: You can pick off prairie dogs at 300 meters all day long
Mosin: You can pick off a moose from the next province

AK-47: Sometimes mistaken for spare parts
AR-15: Sometimes mistaken for a toy
Mosin: Sometimes mistaken for an artillery piece

AK-47: Makes a Boom when fired
AR-15: Makes a Pop when fired
Mosin: A group of Germans just yelled "Vat Vas Dat Noise?"

AK-47: I shot the enemy!
AR-15: I think I shot the enemy!
Mosin: I got the enemy and the 4 standing behind him!

AK-47: Heavily dents the metal gong and makes a loud gong sound
AR-15: Scratches the metal gong and makes a ping sound
Mosin: Can't tell if you hit the gong because it goes straight through

AK-47: Puts a big hole through a tree
AR-15: Puts a small hole in a tree
Mosin: Chops and stacks the tree into firewood

AK-47: Cost you $600
AR-15: Cost you $1200
Mosin: Free with a tank of gas

AK-47: Can start the handguards on fire from too much shooting
AR-15: Can start a fire if too close to a magnifying glass
Mosin: Can start a fire from the fireball from the muzzle

AK-47: Iron sights are good enough
AR-15: Lots of fancy optics available
Mosin: Barrel is so long who needs sights to aim, it always shoots point blank

AK-47: Can take down deer sized game
AR-15: Causes an arguement if asked if it can take take deer sized game
Mosin: Causes a call from the US Government asking if you know what happened to their satellite

AK-47: Invented 50 years ago by a consummate engineer
AR-15: Invented 60 years ago by wounded tank sergeant
Mosin: Invented 117 years ago by two drunks on a budget

AK-47: Used with ammo accordance with the Geneva Convention
AR-15: Used with ammo not in accordance with the Geneva Convention
Mosin: One of the reasons the Geneva Convention was written

AK-47: Useful against unarmored foe
AR-15: Useful against armored foe
Mosin: Useful against tanks

AK-47: One inch groups at 100 yards
AR-15: Five to six inch groups at 100 yards
Mosin: Muzzle is one inch from target at 100 yards

AK-47: Low cost, low maintenance
AR-15: High cost, high maintenance
Mosin: Free with a tank of gas and hasn't been cleaned since WWII

Itsneversafe
12-30-2013, 03:02 PM
A crate of non corrosive is $300 free shipping from westrifle for the mosin. I have never used an svt but I am told its a royal pain to break down and clean. I think it comes to how much they want for either and whether you want a bolt or semi auto. There is obviously more aftermarket stocks and parts for the mosin though.

Strewth
12-30-2013, 03:06 PM
Price?

Hex receiver Mosin=Earlier. More collectable, perhaps? $20 difference at this date in time.
SVT in Canada all refurbs? Talk of different stock and brakes. Big bucks in the States...don't know if this will ever help us.

The Mosin is the perennial dirt simple rifle, the bolt is fun to disassemble:)!
The SVT is complicated, I find care must be taken with surplus more than any of my other Russian riffles. There's simply more bits and nooks and crannies. Not impossible by any means.

Both loud. :)
Mosin punches my shoulder like an Enfield.
The SVT with it's brake is louder:):), and softer shooting. Mags are expensive, when you can find them? Not really meant to be an AR with disposable mags, though.

Mosin is more accurate? Bolt vs semi.

Are you going to keep them stock? Personally I love shooting the SVT, and like shooting the Mosin. Flipping the bolt handle up to vertical doesn't help my cheek weld:).

As always: One of each, Drache! Mosin with bayonet affixed is five feet long! Taller than all capitalist rifles ever made! Noise of SVT will scare borsch out of money-grubbing pig-dogs weak stomachs!

Hum. I got a Mosin first. Ammo can be had for cheaper than that.

Drache
12-30-2013, 03:31 PM
They want $160 plus taxes for a Mosin and $325 plus taxes for the SVT-40

mr_jonny
12-30-2013, 04:05 PM
Is that blue mountain or chicoltin guns?

Strewth
12-30-2013, 04:05 PM
They want $160 plus taxes for a Mosin and $25 plus taxes for the SVT-40

Well then I'd get the SVT for $25:). $325, I assume?
Both prices sound reasonable, ammo will soon outweigh rifle cost....have you handled either one? I still lean towards Mosin first, easier on the wallet, easier to clean (do you have any other surplus-firing guns? It's only hot water, but it should be fairly quick after shooting) and if you don't like her (:eek:!!!!) flipping the rifle will cost very little.

mr_jonny
12-30-2013, 04:08 PM
Love the svt 40, semi auto, clip fed, mosin nagant, bolt action, not really finicky. As for ammo al usually gives a discount if buying a case.

Drache
12-30-2013, 04:09 PM
Is that blue mountain or chicoltin guns?

Chilcotin. Every gun at blue mountain I found was way over priced.

mr_jonny
12-30-2013, 04:35 PM
If I didn't have to work today I would offer you a chance to fire both. If you can hold off for a week , get hold of me and I will bring out both for you to try on the weekend.

RobSmith
12-30-2013, 04:54 PM
Mosin, hardly any moving parts to break or wear out. Fireballs are awesome ! Recoil lets you know this ain't a sissy poodle gun.

FALover
12-30-2013, 05:17 PM
Time is almost up! What did you decide on?

Drache
12-30-2013, 07:01 PM
http://i.imgur.com/sbUuUF0.jpg

webster
12-30-2013, 07:45 PM
Nice! You won't be disappointed. Now go watch Enemy At The Gates. :)

Drache
12-30-2013, 08:19 PM
Love that movie!

Drache
12-30-2013, 09:43 PM
AR-15: Dead on Accuracy!

http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo73/BigJimFish/jan312009944moa.jpg

AK-47: One Dead Enemy! (Might also take out the guy beside him too :p)

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/amd6547/Yugo%20M70/DSC01611.jpg

Mosin-Nagant: Close Enough

http://i.imgur.com/pmfIg4D.jpg

webster
12-31-2013, 06:47 AM
^Looks about right. :p

HenryLung
12-31-2013, 03:26 PM
Awesome, I just shot my $160 Mosin for the first time yesterday and had a blast. Well worth it, despite having to remove all that nasty cosmoline on it

Strewth
12-31-2013, 03:38 PM
Congrats, Drache! I really enjoy thumping away with 54r.

Drache
12-31-2013, 03:47 PM
http://i.imgur.com/12mZ4Jp.png

Satain
12-31-2013, 04:29 PM
http://i.imgur.com/12mZ4Jp.png
LOL!!!
I put a muzzle brake on mine after cutting down to the limit and you should have seen the guys face that was shooting a 338 lapua beside me. LoL!!!
It's a fire breather for sure ;)

Drache
01-22-2014, 04:46 AM
I'll only be home for a single night before having to make my way back towards camp so sadly I won't get to shoot this rifle yet :(