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Strewth
03-28-2014, 03:52 PM
117.15. Regulations

117.15 (1) Subject to subsection (2), the Governor in Council may make regulations prescribing anything that by this Part is to be or may be prescribed.

Restriction

(2) In making regulations, the Governor in Council may not prescribe any thing to be a prohibited firearm, a restricted firearm, a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device or prohibited ammunition if, in the opinion of the Governor in Council, the thing to be prescribed is reasonable for use in Canada for hunting or sporting purposes.


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This is how to get rid of the entire prohib class, yes? Or "No Strewth, yer an idiot, it's been tried and only applies to Valmets because reasons."
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We "just" get the Governor in Council (Governor General David Lloyd Johnston) to declare "x" reasonable for sporting purposes? There's no time frame involved?

RobSmith
03-28-2014, 04:25 PM
Pretty much although AFAIK in this case the "governor in council" is the minister of public safety.

Camo tung
03-28-2014, 04:35 PM
Anything that can chamber a legally recognized hunting round (in most jurisdictions above .23 caliber, non-FMJ) should be a no brainer. Semi auto is a non-issue as taking more than one animal while hunting depends on your license (or licenses) held. Varmint shooters would have even have fewer restrictions due to the smaller calibers available. Sport shooters should have no caliber/action/barrel restrictions. Right now sports shooters appear to be the most restricted users based solely on the conditions attached to their ATT (where to shoot, when to transport, etc) but that's a separate issue.

Strewth for Public Safety Minister!

Strewth
03-28-2014, 04:37 PM
Hmm, or is it the entire Cabinet that's the GIC? Does this make for an Order In Council, then? As Cabinet is the Privy Council, in practice... Confused. But then, that's why I started the thread; you don't know what you don't know...and I don't know a lot:).

I should run for office, thank you for the vote! Once my kids are older, we'll see. Mwa-ha-haaaaa....
I believe Prairie Dog gets to be Minister of Public Safety though...or was it Assistant Minister in Charge of Public Shaming, and Prison Island? I'll search a bit... Off Topic:p.

Foxer
03-28-2014, 05:22 PM
Here's the thing guys -

The "Governor" is the Governor general. That is a figure head position, the language is written that way because technically all OIC's are thru the governor but in reality that's just a rubber stamp.

The GG does what the 'cabinet' recommends - and the cabinet has passed that recommending authority to the RCMP.

So the RCMP makes recommendations and cabinet and the GG basically rubber stamp it.

Sure - if someone OTHER than the RCMP were doing it, they may very well determine that a specific firearm has sporting or hunting applications - but that ain't gonna happen under the RCMP.

If the CPC forced the change now that'd be great - right until the libs got in one day and we're back to square one when the RCMP change it back.

The problem isn't that the law doesn't allow what we want, the problem is who has control of the law right now. That's why they're looking at more serious changes.

Swampdonkey
03-28-2014, 06:02 PM
Again, more reason for our continued buy-in to the CPC.

Socialist Liberals and Communist NDP will be the end of our freedoms.

3MTA3
03-28-2014, 09:14 PM
Here's the thing-The Governor in Council is the term for the Cabinet acting in a legal capacity. I like the "may not but The bigger question is "What's reasonable"?

CLW .45
07-03-2014, 05:36 PM
Seems good, but repeal of the restricted/prohibited classifications is what we need.

zulu
07-04-2014, 06:15 AM
I wish they would look at the rossi circuit judge again. they killed it with res class.