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05-02-2012, 12:51 PM

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Yes. 37.24% (127 votes)
No. 60.7% (207 votes)
I'm not sure. 0.88% (3 votes)
Other. (Specify below) 1.17% (4 votes)
Total Votes: 341

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Should firearm vendors record customer information?
by Community Team Posted: May 2, 2012 10:34 AM Last Updated: May 2, 2012 11:29 AM Read 8 comments8

Categories: Canada, Community, Politics
The Canadian Shooting Sports Association is accusing Ontario's firearms officer of illegally asking business owners to record information about people who buy long guns. (Jonathan Hayward/Canadian Press)

Ontario's chief firearms officer Chris Wyatt has triggered a new controversy by asking long-gun vendors to record the names, addresses and phone numbers of people who buy them.

Critics say the move is illegal, and that it flies in the face of the hard-fought struggle to strike down Canada's long gun registry.

"[Wyatt] is breaking the intent of the law, C-19," said John Evers, the regional director of the Canadian Shooting Sports Association.

"It's pretty bad when you have those who are supposed to uphold the law breaking the law, flagrantly saying, 'I'm going to disregard [it], because I don't believe it's right.'"

Bill C-19 scrapped Canada's long gun registry in February and ordered the destruction of all data collected.

The CBC Community is already debating the issue.

"Incorrect Mr. Evers, C-19 does not make it illegal for the province to collect such information should they choose to. It only discontinues the practice by the federal government. Harper stated that the provinces were free to create their own registries." - TMLfan in exile
"Asking businesses to retain personal information without any kind of procedures or policy for privacy in place is not just breaking a promise, it is reckless and irresponsible. What happens to that information? How and where is it stored? Who is it shared with? And what happens if lost, stolen, or given to someone who should not have it? - Northerner74
"It's not a free-for-all for gun owners. You're still owning and handling something that is designed for the purpose of killing people and other living things." - TOLatte
"Big surprise. [Chief firearms officers] in every province have always been making up their own rules. Time to close any loopholes that give these bureaucrats the ability to push their own agenda." - JayEhmDee

Do you think the province should collect personal information about legal gun owners? Why or why not? How do you think it relates to Bill C-19, if at all? Should this data exist at all?

Share your thoughts in the comment field below.

05-02-2012, 01:06 PM
Thank you for voting!
Yes. 35.26% (128 votes)
No. 62.81% (228 votes)
I'm not sure. 0.83% (3 votes)
Other. (Specify below) 1.1% (4 votes)
Total Votes: 363

05-02-2012, 01:21 PM

Edward Teach
05-02-2012, 01:32 PM

05-02-2012, 02:13 PM

05-02-2012, 03:20 PM
Done. No 71.12%

05-02-2012, 03:33 PM

Yes. 26.92% (140 votes)
No. 71.73% (373 votes)
I'm not sure. 0.58% (3 votes)
Other. (Specify below) 0.77% (4 votes)
Total Votes: 520

05-02-2012, 03:35 PM
add another done to the list

05-02-2012, 04:25 PM
Thank you for voting!

Yes. 25.77% (142 votes)

No. 72.96% (402 votes)

I'm not sure. 0.54% (3 votes)

Other. (Specify below) 0.73% (4 votes)

Total Votes: 551

05-02-2012, 04:26 PM
No. 72.66% (396 votes

05-02-2012, 04:27 PM

Rory McCanuck
05-02-2012, 07:12 PM
Thank you for voting!
Yes. 23.72% (153 votes)
No. 75.04% (484 votes)
I'm not sure. 0.62% (4 votes)
Other. (Specify below) 0.62% (4 votes)
Total Votes: 645

05-02-2012, 09:21 PM
76.46% NO . . .


05-02-2012, 09:43 PM

05-02-2012, 11:07 PM
What kind of Enfield is in the pic? Super bubba, or some shorty I know naught about?

05-02-2012, 11:12 PM
Voted No.

Here's the latest numbers......

Thank you for voting!
Yes. 22.02% (159 votes)

No. 76.87% (555 votes)

I'm not sure. 0.55% (4 votes)

Other. (Specify below) 0.55% (4 votes)

Total Votes: 722

05-03-2012, 12:44 AM

Rory McCanuck
05-03-2012, 09:54 AM
Its a cutaway for demonstrations.

Flam Sire
05-03-2012, 11:51 AM
Done! An unequivocal "NO". Thanks Jwire.

Yes. 21.48% (177 votes)
No. 76.94% (634 votes)
I'm not sure. 0.73% (6 votes)
Other. (Specify below) 0.85% (7 votes)
Total Votes: 824

05-03-2012, 01:39 PM

05-03-2012, 02:27 PM
Done! 77% and counting say no!

05-05-2012, 07:08 AM

05-05-2012, 10:55 AM
Done! Thanks for the heads-up.

Yes. 18.56% (193 votes)
No. 80.1% (833 votes)
I'm not sure. 0.58% (6 votes)
Other. (Specify below) 0.77% (8 votes)

05-05-2012, 02:21 PM

05-05-2012, 03:05 PM
Not sure what the big deal about this is.

Back in the pre-registry days, they took your info and no one cared. I'm sure the dealers need to be accountable for who they sell firearms to, thus the gathering of info.

05-05-2012, 06:13 PM
Should private individuals be accountable for who they sell firearms to? Bring the registry back to ensure they're accountable?

05-05-2012, 07:46 PM
I will ask to see the purchaser's PAL and offer a receipt if required. No more, no less.

05-05-2012, 09:48 PM
Why should businesses be expected to do any more?

05-05-2012, 11:51 PM
Its a cutaway for demonstrations.

Huh, learned something today! Thanks.

05-06-2012, 03:46 AM
Why should businesses be expected to do any more?
As a dealer they would be regulated by a different set of rules than we would as private sellers. Records of sales have been done for years, way before registration and it was never a problem.

otoh ... If I ask you for a receipt for a firearm I buy from you privately, realistically that sale is recorded as well esp if the seller keeps a copy.

05-06-2012, 07:32 AM
Done...now just over 80% for no.

05-06-2012, 09:10 AM
if a person as aclean record and is competent he/ she should be able to buy a firearm without any hassel. nomad

05-06-2012, 01:37 PM
if a person as aclean record and is competent he/ she should be able to buy a firearm without any hassel.
Actually, the PAL and the issuing thereof, is supposed to ensure that the holder is competent and eligible to obtain firearms and the hoops required to get one IS a fair bit of hassle in itself.

05-07-2012, 10:49 PM
I think we have this one beat.

05-08-2012, 02:55 AM
done, 80ish still.

05-08-2012, 03:22 AM