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Shalimar
08-20-2014, 05:57 PM
"Politically charged issue dominates doc talks"-postmedia

Okay, another media puff piece of medical marijuana, which the MSM
are fond of, as you can tell from the quality of most of their stories.

The Trudeau Liberals want it to be a political issue, so the MSM
has dutifully signed on.

Then a sentence I wasn't expecting from the outgoing Cdn. Medical
Association president.

"Some patients seeking pot are doctor-shopping, he said, and if they
can't get authorization they end up in emergency departments "tying up
our already busy emergency departments." He said female physicians
working in rural Canada have told him they've felt threatened and
intimidated into signing prescriptions."


I'm waiting for the follow-up stories: Do rural female physicians
require clinical assistances from German Shepherds and S&W Ladysmiths*
for a safer practice?

(I'd vote for Ruger SP101 w/3 inch barrel but that's just me, and I like
that breed of dog too.
When the feds made smaller handguns prohibited. They had a reason, as
these rural female
physicians are finding out. It was to stave off a CCW permit movement
as was happening in the U.S.)

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http://www.thestarphoenix.com/health/Politically+charged+issue+dominates+talks/10129993/story.html

Politically charged issue dominates doc talks

By Sharon Kirkey, Postmedia News August 19, 2014


Health Minister Rona Ambrose delivers remarks to the 147th General
Council of the Canadian Medical Association in Ottawa on Monday, Aug.
18, 2014.

Photograph by: THE CANADIAN PRESS/Sean Kilpatrick , Postmedia News

The nation's doctors are under no obligation to prescribe marijuana to
patients seeking it for pain relief or other medical purposes, Canada's
federal health minister says.

Marijuana isn't an approved drug, Health Canada has not endorsed its use
and it has not been proven safe or effective, Rona Ambrose said Monday
at the opening day of the annual meeting of the Canadian Medical
Association in Ottawa.

"The majority of the physician community do not want to prescribe it,
they don't want to be put in a situation where they're pressured to
prescribe it and I encourage them to not prescribe it if they're not
comfortable with it," Ambrose told reporters.

The emotionally charged issue dominated the doctors' meeting Monday.
Their leaders say MDs resent being made the sole route by which
Canadians can obtain legal access to marijuana and that doctors feel as
if they're being asked to authorize an unapproved drug with blindfolds
on.

Most people who selfmedicate with pot prefer to smoke it. "The last time
I checked, smoking causes cancer and lung disease and I don't think
there's anything magical about marijuana that gets rid of that," said
outgoing CMA president and emergency physician Dr. Louis Hugo
Francescutti.

"If we could deliver it through a cookie or a milkshake or a pill or a
liquid and we know that it works, we would welcome it with open arms,"
he said. But, "we just don't feel comfortable with it."

Francescutti said the amounts of marijuana licensed growers are now
producing "would far exceed any medicinal requirement for this country"
and that reps or "detailers" are visiting doctors and "making all sorts
of promises around marijuana."

Some patients seeking pot are doctor-shopping, he said, and if they
can't get authorization they end up in emergency departments "tying up
our already busy emergency departments." He said female physicians
working in rural Canada have told him they've felt threatened and
intimidated into signing prescriptions.

"I've never received as much hate mail as I do on a daily basis around
marijuana," Francescutti said.

But provincial regulatory colleges and their medical malpractice insurer
are telling doctors to tread carefully, he said.

The resistance is driving desperate patients to seek out doctors willing
to authorize a prescription, for a price. Delegates heard that some
doctors are charging $200 to sign the forms Health Canada requires to
let patients consume marijuana legally.

Montreal physician Dr. Mark Ware, a world leader in cannabis research,
said medical marijuana "is an exploding issue" that's not going away and
that doctors should be educating themselves in the "fundamental abc's"
about cannabinoids.

But the stigma is hard to shake, said Ware, an associate professor of
family medicine and anesthesia at Montreal's McGill University. Cannabis
is still seen as an illegal substance, he said, "a drug of abuse instead
of a drug of potential use."

He said licensed marijuana producers have an obligation to put some of
the money they're making back into clinical trials. "If they don't do
that then they run the risk of profiteering from sick patients. I think
they should do everything they can to avoid that perspective."

His patient, 31-year-old Mark Nixon, who was left a paraplegic after a
car crash seven years ago on a country road near Hudson, Que., told the
delegates at the conference that marijuana has dramatically improved his
sleep at night and helps ease stomach and nerve pain. "It does help us,
the people who need it, the people who use it correctly. "I don't want
to be considered a pot-head. That's not what I'm in it for. I'm trying
to live a better life, a more comfortable life."

Ambrose said that since the new medical marijuana approval regime was
implemented and oversight tightened over who is approving marijuana for
medical reasons - and how much - the average amount of pot authorized by
a doctor has fallen from 17 grams a day to four grams a day.

She also defended a controversial, taxpayer-funded anti-pot campaign
that has become a politically charged issue on Canada's marijuana
policy.

Health Canada has asked the CMA and two other doctors' groups to lend
their logos to the ad campaign warning youth against the dangers of
marijuana.

But, in a rare joint statement issued Saturday, the CMA, the College of
Family Physicians of Canada and the Royal College of Physicians and
Surgeons of Canada said they would decline the government's invitation
to endorse the campaign, saying the issue had become too political in
the debate over the legal status of the drug.

Forbes/Hutton
08-20-2014, 06:07 PM
And doctors don't fell threatened and no doctor shopping occurs over percocets or antibiotics for little Johnnies ear infection?

Maybe there should be female doctors?:evil1:

And only rural doctors? So no pressure on the doctors by Jane and Finch then?

OEM
08-20-2014, 08:54 PM
Wait, I thought pot made people mellow. Or is that another useful BS to peddle?


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Strewth
08-20-2014, 09:07 PM
I find the argument of smoking joints causing cancer fairly thin, and the point that pot hasn't been tested and may have side effects fairly laughable.

As far as I know, most people smoke far less weed than other people smoke cigarettes per day, and there's a whole lot of chemicals in cigarettes that are not in pot.
And as to chemicals, doctors that would prescribe oxycotin or percacet really don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to side effects.

Shalimar
08-20-2014, 10:20 PM
I find the argument of smoking joints causing cancer fairly thin, and the point that pot hasn't been tested and may have side effects fairly laughable.

As far as I know, most people smoke far less weed than other people smoke cigarettes per day, and there's a whole lot of chemicals in cigarettes that are not in pot.
And as to chemicals, doctors that would prescribe oxycotin or percacet really don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to side effects.

I look at it this way

Smoke your head off all you want so long as you are not forcing it on others (like my moron neighbors).. are not driving etc... and if u medically need it and it works who am I to say don't use it.

Hell I had others suggest I do that for my own issues but it was never really my "thing".

Shalimar
08-20-2014, 10:20 PM
Wait, I thought pot made people mellow. Or is that another useful BS to peddle?


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It typically makes many paranoid.. and hungry as well.

blacksmithden
08-20-2014, 11:20 PM
These are the same doctors who left my dying uncle in pain in his last few months of life before the cancer got him because......I kid you not....the doctor said this to my aunt.....Im not prescribing morphine because its highly addictive. Are you f-ing kidding me ? The guy is dead in two months from an inoperable, untreatable brain tumor and youre worried he'll get addicted to pain medication. When I heard that, I wanted the doctors name so I could rip him a new one....or ten. The rest of the family talked me out of it. Sometimes doctors can be brilliant life savers, and sometimes they can be the dumbest bunch of arrogant a-holes that ever stood on two legs.

Shalimar
08-20-2014, 11:24 PM
These are the same doctors who left my dying uncle in pain in his last few months of life before the cancer got him because......I kid you not....the doctor said this to my aunt.....Im not prescribing morphine because its highly addictive. Are you f-ing kidding me ? The guy is dead in two months from an inoperable, untreatable brain tumor and youre worried he'll get addicted to pain medication. When I heard that, I wanted the doctors name so I could rip him a new one....or ten. The rest of the family talked me out of it. Sometimes doctors can be brilliant life savers, and sometimes they can be the dumbest bunch of arrogant a-holes that ever stood on two legs.

That is one of the stupidest things I've heard in ages.. why in hell was he not sued and have his dr. license revoked?? @_@

There is no facepalm big enough for that!