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Billythreefeathers
10-16-2014, 08:46 AM
John Ivison: Trudeau’s support slipping after failing to back mission against ISIS, poll indicates

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2014/10/15/john-ivison-trudeaus-support-slipping-after-failing-to-back-mission-against-isis-poll-indicates/

OTTAWA — The Liberals have done a good job portraying Stephen Harper as the corkscrew prime minister — cold, sharp and twisted.
The contrast with their own leader, Justin Trudeau, has been stark. While Mr. Harper has been engaged in the murky fog of government, Mr. Trudeau has been telling fables about “sunny ways” – “persuasion is superior to force; kindness trumps aggression.”
Unfortunately for the Liberal leader, though, voters don’t seem to agree that kindness trumps aggression when dealing with the Islamic State of Al-Sham.
A new poll by Nanos Research suggests that the unparalleled lead Mr. Trudeau had established, when Canadians were asked about their preference for prime minister, has been whittled down, after his party opted not to back the government’s plan to send CF-18 jets to Iraq.
What was an eight percentage point lead on the leadership question is now down to just five points. Even that-three point drop in one week is misleading, since the leadership poll is a four-week rolling average.
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The poll suggested 35% of voters back Mr. Trudeau as their preferred prime minister; 30% support Mr. Harper and 17% champion the NDP’s Tom Mulcair. (Messrs. Trudeau and Mulcair were both down only slightly, less than a single percentage point, but Mr. Harper was up 1.7%.)
With a general election almost exactly a year away, Mr. Harper needed something to disrupt Mr. Trudeau’s momentum, or the campaign would be over before it had a chance to get started. It looks like the Prime Minister has his opportunity.
“The Conservatives have built their success around Harper and, if the previous trend had continued, there were very few scenarios under which he could win the next election. Brand repair on the Prime Minister is the Conservatives’ top priority and this starts that process,” said Nik Nanos.
Another Nanos poll released Wednesday is likely to aid Mr. Harper’s cause further — concerns about war and the situation in the Middle East have risen up the agenda dramatically for many Canadians. The national security issue was third behind only the economy and health care, from nowhere six months ago.
Mr. Trudeau has done a masterful job of telling Canadians he’s on their side — whatever side they’re on. His pitch to fight on behalf of the middle class works because everyone thinks they’re middle class — research suggests the poor always overestimate their rank and the rich underestimate.
His appeal for “sunny ways” to triumph is convincing because everyone likes to think they support hope over fear.
But there’s no room for hokum and bromides in a recorded division in the House of Commons. You vote one way or the other. And for the first time, Mr. Trudeau appears to be offside with the prevailing mood in the country.
For someone who has presented himself as being above partisan politics, he appeared narrowly dogmatic, while Mr. Harper, that most fervid parliamentary chauvinist, looked, by comparison, almost statesmanlike.
Mr. Trudeau’s tendency to make unscripted penis jokes simply adds to the impression suggested by Bob Rae that leader of the Liberal Party is not an entry level position
Mr. Trudeau’s tendency to make unscripted penis jokes simply adds to the impression suggested by Bob Rae that leader of the Liberal Party is not an entry level position.
The Conservatives seem set to repeat their happy experiment with their fall economic update, which is reputed to be bulging with tax relief measures that Mr. Trudeau will have to vote for, or against, when they come before the House.
The challenge for the Conservatives is to shift the focus from a fight between a dull, monochrome prime minister and a charismatic Liberal leader with a heart like a big box of paints. By forcing him to make choices, they wrap Mr. Trudeau in shades of grey.
But before government supporters celebrate, they should realize that this is merely a base to build from, rather than any kind of peak.
This Sunday marks exactly one year from the fixed-date election. As polling analyst Eric Grenier noted Wednesday, over the past 35 years only two incumbent federal governments have polled lower than the Harper Conservatives with 12 months to go – and one of those was Kim Campbell’s Progressive Conservatives in 1993. They were reduced to two seats.
More happily for Mr. Harper, the other was Brian Mulroney’s PCs in 1987. He won a majority a year later, following a sustained carpet-bombing of the credibility of then-Liberal leader John Turner. Those who don’t remember the past are condemned to repeat it, but there’s little chance today’s Tories haven’t learned the lesson from ’88.

Billythreefeathers
10-16-2014, 08:48 AM
the honeymoon is over

kennymo
10-16-2014, 09:12 AM
Mr. Trudeau’s tendency to make unscripted penis jokes simply adds to the impression suggested by Bob Rae that leader of the Liberal Party is not an entry level position

Priceless...

Strewth
10-16-2014, 09:37 AM
And for the first time, Mr. Trudeau appears to be offside with the prevailing mood in the country.

I think they meant
"For the first time the prevailing offside media is being forced to let in the light on the vast empty country that resides between Mr. Trudeau's ears."
I dream of a time in the near future when Trudeau the Younger makes a mistake big enough to ire the liberal media to the point that they release the hounds on his previous...non sequiturs.

Shalimar
10-16-2014, 10:02 AM
Mr. Trudeau’s tendency to make unscripted penis jokes simply adds to the impression suggested by Bob Rae that leader of the Liberal Party is not an entry level position

Priceless...

JT responds: Damn I've got the munches now.. what was it you said?

Rory McCanuck
10-16-2014, 10:33 AM
while Mr. Harper, that most fervid parliamentary chauvinist, looked, by comparison, almost statesmanlike.
Gee, bias much?
That's exactly Harper's conservative appeal/ liberal distaste; he's a respectable almost squeaky clean manager.
Remember all the flack he got for his sweater vests years ago?
Not flashy, sexy, or fashionable, but eminently practical.
Everything the left hates.

And yeah, peepee jokes are a good example of Turdo the twooth's maturity level.

bettercallsaul
10-16-2014, 10:42 AM
Unless the Liberals find a way to literally have someones else's voice come out of Justin's mouth, this will only continue happening.

kennymo
10-16-2014, 10:48 AM
http://i1328.photobucket.com/albums/w534/kennymo81/Mobile%20Uploads/26AD4F55-97C1-44B5-B783-5D1892BEA2B7_zpslj0eqzhv.jpg (http://s1328.photobucket.com/user/kennymo81/media/Mobile%20Uploads/26AD4F55-97C1-44B5-B783-5D1892BEA2B7_zpslj0eqzhv.jpg.html)

So which one do you think he looks most like anyways? My vote goes Ron Wood...

Strewth
10-16-2014, 11:07 AM
^All of them really. Although he usually has either Mick or Keith's facial expression from that picture.

Billythreefeathers
10-16-2014, 11:25 AM
He's (JT) got 4 out of 5 chance of having good hair,,,