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Deerslayer270
05-05-2015, 04:42 AM
Hey all,

Plan on hunting black bear for the first time this september, my question is what does everyone think about the 270? I generally shoot 130gr federal power shock sp's for deer with great success but feel for bear id want somthing along the lines of 150gr nosler partitions, or maybe even barnes tsx bullet i believe it is? Anyone here use the 270 for bear? Let me know what ya think, id like to avoid buying another rifle in a different caliber but having no experience with bear im looking for honest opinions on the subject.

kennymo
05-05-2015, 05:56 AM
The 130 gr will probably work just fine.

sk8r
05-05-2015, 06:43 AM
I think I'd go up to the 150, personally. And don't stretch the range. Have fun. :)

Foxer
05-05-2015, 07:11 AM
The partitions would do just fine and dandy. 270's fine for black bear.

RIMP9
01-02-2017, 05:32 PM
You better check MNR regs first. You really can not use any rifle over a ,243 south of the french river. Y'all might want rethink what ur doin

3MTA3
01-02-2017, 06:30 PM
You better check MNR regs first. You really can not use any rifle over a ,243 south of the french river. Y'all might want rethink what ur doin
Not incorrect unless there is some new crazy law ии

Swampdonkey
01-02-2017, 08:06 PM
More than enough gun unless you're taking 400 yard shots.

JustBen
01-02-2017, 10:12 PM
More than enough gun unless you're taking 400 yard shots.

Even with 130gr bullets.

I'd lean towards solid copper bullets instead of upping the weight.

Deuce-deuce
01-02-2017, 10:43 PM
Sucide mission going after a black bear with a puny.270win... there's enough information on the internet, you should know this.

Swampdonkey
01-02-2017, 11:00 PM
Even with 130gr bullets.

I'd lean towards solid copper bullets instead of upping the weight.

Seeing as how most monometals need 2000 fps to expand, that might shorten effective range.

The TSX effectively gave the 243 the same lethality as the 45-70, but flatter trajectory and less recoil.

An MRX or LRX could help velocity retention.

Justice
01-03-2017, 10:04 AM
OP is 2 years old.
"...can not use any rifle over a .243 south of the French River..." You'd best read the Hunting Regs yourself. Your statement is absolute nonsense. There are some municipalities with daft calibre restrictions for small game(most say .275 calibre) and some for everything(most name .270 as max), all of 'em by the cartridge name not the actual bullet diameter, but nowhere is there a law that says anything about .243. Or South of anywhere.
And 'ur' is not a word.

Odin762
01-03-2017, 12:55 PM
Take care in selecting the right projectile. And shot placement is everything. The 130gr will do fine.

Camo tung
01-03-2017, 02:11 PM
Don't overthink your choice of the 270. Plenty of bears have died quick deaths from arrows, your 270 will be more than adequate. If you've had good performance with a certain bullet on your deer I'd say stay with the same combo that works.

gtr
01-03-2017, 02:23 PM
I wonder how this turned out ?

London
01-04-2017, 05:40 PM
Sucide mission going after a black bear with a puny.270win... there's enough information on the internet, you should know this.

Wow. Is that sarcasm or real opinion? What a shi!show of misinformation this is turning out to be.

Rory McCanuck
01-04-2017, 06:06 PM
I would assume that it was sarcasm.
There are many 'Bear Defence' threads on the interwebs, so many that it has become its own joke.
There is a world of difference between stopping an 800lb Grizzly that's 4 feet away and irate, and hunting a 250lb Black bear from 60 yards over a bait pile.

3MTA3
01-06-2017, 07:55 AM
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1. Big stick
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2.Supersoaker
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3.Kung Fu & Magnum Pepperspray

Deuce-deuce
01-06-2017, 08:25 AM
Wow. Is that sarcasm or real opinion? What a shi!show of misinformation this is turning out to be.

'Twas a joke... .270 works just fine, ask jack. ;)

London
01-06-2017, 08:37 PM
'Twas a joke... .270 works just fine, ask jack. ;)

Thanks for the clarification and no disrespect. Sometimes its hard to tell. In fact, others have mistaken my sarcasm for idiocy. Good enough for O'Connor is good enough for JB.
JB

GHL1
02-22-2017, 01:31 PM
The late Jack O'Connor is credited with popularizing the .270 through his columns and stories in Outdoor Life magazine from the 1930s well into the 1970s. While O'Connor hunted with other calibers, he seemed to gravitate to the .270 for most of his adventures, using it on numerous sheep, elk, moose and even grizzly bear hunts. That was the kind of hard evidence hunters needed to put their trust in what was considered a fairly small cartridge/bullet at the time. If O'Connor could take elk and moose with it, by golly so could we.

Swampdonkey
02-22-2017, 01:37 PM
I'm sure O'Connor, like every other celebrity, endorsed the product of the highest bidder. Writer, actor, spokesman, salesman are all the same.

magnumsmith
02-22-2017, 02:56 PM
Accuracy and speed kill. A .270 has no trouble downing moose so black bear should be easy.

p3t3rsn
03-24-2017, 02:27 PM
I have yet to see any real difference in killing power between the 130-, 140-, and 150-grain .270 loads. There are big differences, however, in bullet make and type. I would use either Nosler Partions or Barnes and you are good.

Joe549
03-24-2017, 07:08 PM
I shot a bear this past fall with my .270 using Hornady 140gr SST, little hole going in, BIG hole coming out. I was surprised at the amount of damage it did...

Newbgunner
03-26-2017, 03:56 PM
My dad was telling me that many a Black bear was downed by my great grandfathers old 25-20 when he was out deer hunting. Here we have some crazy caliber rules. Once deer season is done you can't use anything bigger than .23 cal.

BCGUY12
03-27-2017, 02:43 PM
I also took a bear last fall with 270 (WSM) and 140 gr Hornady, but BTSP (soft point). Frontal shot so hit top of lungs and crushed 3 vertabrae and bullet lodged under hide. Bear dropped on the spot of course.

todigy96
04-18-2017, 07:46 AM
More than enough gun unless you're taking 400 yard shots.

Doesn't the .270 have more energy then a 30-06 at 4 and 500 yards?

LB303
04-18-2017, 08:41 AM
Doesn't the .270 have more energy then a 30-06 at 4 and 500 yards?
That's true under certain conditions-
I looked at this a while back for the benefit of my son, who was wondering about moose loads.
We arbitrarily decided that 1500 ft-lbs would be our nominal humane killing energy.
Using manufacturers' data on commonly available factory loads we came up with a set of humane killing ranges
A 130 gr SP .270 will have 1500 ft-lb terminal energy at 330 yds. A 150gr .30-06 will retain that same energy only out to 290 yds.
The .30 cal allows you to try 180 gr bullets though, where 1500 ft-lbs will be retained at 360 yds.
The .270WSM with 130 gr still beats that, 380 yds for the same energy. Federal Power-Shok was almost $48/box though. What price for performance is another consideration if you're determined to push the envelope. Myself, I think that's what the range is there for. My hunting shots I like to keep well within the limits of any cartridge

My data applies to jacketed soft points, but the trend should be the same while just flying towards the target.
How that energy is disposed of at impact, depends on bullet construction as others have noted.

hawk-i
04-18-2017, 09:09 AM
Its a Black Bear, they are not hard to kill...the 270 will work fine with what ever you use on deer.....Have fun :)

Justice
04-18-2017, 10:13 AM
It's also a 2 year old post. snicker.

Haywire1
04-18-2017, 10:50 AM
It's also a 2 year old post. snicker.

Last post prior to today was March 2017. Learn to read. Snicker

M1917 Enfield
04-18-2017, 01:16 PM
A .270 using a 140gr. Hornady SST or any other decent 140gr bullet is a very efficient killer out yonder -

http://www.osaaustralia.com.au/imagegen.ashx?image=/media/11936/H80563.jpg&class=ProductImageStandard

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj182/TheMystro1971/Hunting%20Guns%20etc/Winchester%20M70%20Jack%20OConnor%20Tribute%20Rifl e/270ballisticnetchart.jpg

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http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/270_140_222_yd_Zero.jpg

Haywire1
04-18-2017, 02:00 PM
And realistically, you have enough energy in your "humane energy level" to put down a grizzly.

Cpx 2 game such as deer/black bear, are an at most 1000 ftlb of energy animal. That being said, 30-30 works on them fine. They really are not that tough an animal. Magazine writers came up with the whole"you need this much energy at x distance" thing to sell higher powered rifles, and nothing more. By the 1500 ft lbs you picked, a 243 is at most a 200 yard cartridge. Just pointing that out.

AIboy
10-12-2017, 07:18 PM
Everyone thinks .... oh I need a big gun to do the job ... a big calibre !!!!!!!
All the magnums do is a big pile of damage .... magnum cookers .... magnum kickers .... but on one side it is nice to have that umph to do the job!!!!!!
I bought a browning. Bar in 25-06 semi ..... the damage that it does with a 100 grain barns ttsx or the tsx bullet is just mind boggling!!!!!.... and I'm shooting a mild load ( I don't wanna destroy my rifle ) and the girlfriend likes it to shoot ... barley kicks at all
It's called shot placement and practice.... and build up your confidence by shooting a box or two!!!!!
So back to the .270
It will do the job so sweet .... with absolutely no problems
If for a second you think it is underpowered..... boy o boy are you wrong