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RangeBob
10-28-2015, 11:05 AM
The first time I loaded a lever action, I kept pushing the cartridges in all the way allowing the feed ramp to close with each cartridge. By the time it was loaded I ended up with a bleeding finger. It didn't take long for me to change my technique to the way this fellow is doing it.

I stumbled upon this video today, and thought I'd share his common sense


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sLpE7LGYBI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sLpE7LGYBI


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kennymo
10-28-2015, 11:10 AM
I did see this on a Western recently.....I think an episode of Hell on Wheels perhaps? Makes perfect sense. I'll start to worry about it once I trade the Henry in on a Marlin.... ;)

Rory McCanuck
10-28-2015, 12:03 PM
Love the way that Mossberg loading gate hangs out of the hole just waiting to bite someone :p

It's been a while since I've played with the Winchester, but I seem to remember that the last loaded round bounced back a bit, and blocked the loading gate, making getting the next one in quite difficult. Not such a big deal with the Marlin, as the last loaded round stays about even with the front of the gate.

I've developed a similar method of loading levers.
Grasp receiver in left hand and push the first round halfway in.
Use the middle finger of left hand to hold that round from squirting out.
Use the next round to push it all the way in.
This way, you only need to get the last one all the way in.

I generally wear tight fitting stretchy knitted gloves while hunting.
Keeping them away from snagging on the sharp edges of the gate is important.

speedloader
10-28-2015, 09:27 PM
interesting, guys can you load one of those from the top as well ?
I have a model 1894 win but no side gate on it so never tried one
what makes me a bit nervous watching is that side gate ,pressing on the primer of the inserted round
with the next round obviously its fine and has worked a long time but
maybe just looks worse than it is

RangeBob
10-28-2015, 10:02 PM
what makes me a bit nervous watching is that side gate ,pressing on the primer of the inserted round

Hornady LEVERevolution ammunition has a soft polymer flex tip, making it more unlikely to cause a primer strike.

http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primary/440/440591.jpg

Haywire1
10-28-2015, 10:59 PM
It actually takes a lot more force than you think to set off a primer.

Rory McCanuck
10-28-2015, 11:06 PM
interesting, guys can you load one of those from the top as well ?
You can throw one into the chamber, but the lifters in the way of the mag, isn't it?
Plus, I think it'd be tough to reach down far enough to push them up the tube.


what makes me a bit nervous watching is that side gate ,pressing on the primer of the inserted round

The loading gate has a groove in it, to help align cartridges so they go in straight.
The end that would push against the casehead is actually crescent shaped, so if anything, the gate would push against the casehead and leave a gap where the primer sits.

glockfan
10-28-2015, 11:07 PM
most lever uses round nose to avoid setting off a primer if ever an unfired cartridge hasn't been pulled off by the extractor , then trying to load the next by inadvertence.

dont remember the models but some levers also can't be loaded by hand as the bolt will not close entirely if the round doesn't come from the mag...iirc there's a notch in the way of the bolt on an empty mag....

speedloader
10-29-2015, 05:04 AM
oh okay so the design allows for that just looks like they are pressing on the primer
was thinking you know some of my 308 & 223 FMJ rounds or even 762
are some fairly pointed tips wouldn't wanna be jamimg those in a rifle like that
so mostly RN and soft tip makes sense ,and it does take a pretty good whack to set off a primer true
looks like Hornadys got the solution anyway as always LOL

OEM
10-29-2015, 07:38 AM
This is the best way that I've found so far to load my Marlin 30-30. I never did find loading to be a problem, it was always the unloading that was a pain...compared to all my other hunting buddies who would just remove a magazine. I've yet to stone and polish my loading gate spring, but I believe juducious stoning is the way to get the loading gate to be this flexible. Enjoy...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCn3fxRhmB8&feature=youtu.be




The first time I loaded a lever action, I kept pushing the cartridges in all the way allowing the feed ramp to close with each cartridge. By the time it was loaded I ended up with a bleeding finger. It didn't take long for me to change my technique to the way this fellow is doing it.

I stumbled upon this video today, and thought I'd share his common sense


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sLpE7LGYBI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sLpE7LGYBI


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"It's not common sense until someone explains it to you."

Newbgunner
10-29-2015, 03:46 PM
OEM the first video the still looks like he playing a D chord. HAHAHAHAHAHA

RangeBob
10-29-2015, 08:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCn3fxRhmB8&feature=youtu.be

Nifty unload technique.
I'd never tried that, but now that I see it I understand how it works.
Just tried it now (Snap Caps) -- works really easily.
Obviously it doesn't get the one in the chamber, but it empties the magazine well.

speedloader
10-29-2015, 09:19 PM
of course the guy with my dream back yard just happens to have one
using that Hornady Ammo RB


https://youtu.be/Kq8NmOF1csk

zulu
10-30-2015, 03:31 AM
I'm trying this unloading style tomorrow

OEM
10-30-2015, 08:57 AM
Hahah..yes it does look like a D eh! Never looked at it that way!

RB, I've tried to do this and can't, not with my Marlin. The bloody loading gate spring is waaay to stiff on mine. I'll have to stone it to reduce the stiffness. What rifle do you own that allows you to do it so easily as the video?

gtr
02-05-2016, 07:33 PM
BLR just pop out the clip.

Swampdonkey
02-06-2016, 02:17 AM
Tubular magazines can be topped up without being removed or opening the bolt; 1890s tacticool. I understand why bird hunters might like this feature. A real cowboy carbine ought to use the same cartridges as your revolver.

But like the 30-30, I'm surprised at the longevity of certain design features.