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Kavi09
07-26-2016, 08:52 PM
Recently I have been looking for something to shoot out at longer ranges than the .22lr and my .270 is quite expensive to take out once or twice a week.

I usually shoot the 100m or 200m range but want to be able to throw rounds down range to build my skills without inciting wife wrath. I am thinking about 223 as a less expensive cartridge to run.

Don't have a gun picked and need some suggestions. I prefer something that drops into a modular chassis and can accept ar stocks and grips.

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kennymo
07-26-2016, 09:02 PM
I prefer something that drops into a modular chassis and can accept ar stocks

If you're wanting to invest in a chassis, Remington or Savage product is probably for you. Maybe one of the SPS varmint or tactical models to get the heavy barrel? At least for a start....

wolver
07-26-2016, 09:23 PM
Fun gun? Sounds to me what you're looking for is an SKS and a crate of bullets.

PatchRat
07-26-2016, 10:22 PM
Fun gun? Sounds to me what you're looking for is an SKS and a crate of bullets.

This +1. You can get mags easily enough, and the aftermarket support is huge. I think Cabelas has a really good sale on right now for the 7.62x39 crates as well.

Kavi09
07-26-2016, 10:29 PM
Fun gun? Sounds to me what you're looking for is an SKS and a crate of bullets.
How's the accuracy on the SKS at 100?

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CLW .45
07-26-2016, 10:39 PM
How's the accuracy on the SKS at 100?

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Others can correct me if I'm wrong, but 2" to 4" is about the best you can expect.

But, just as with a rifle that gives 1/2 MOA, the important thing is working on your ability to shoot up to the potential of the rifle.

Kavi09
07-27-2016, 06:42 AM
If you're wanting to invest in a chassis, Remington or Savage product is probably for you. Maybe one of the SPS varmint or tactical models to get the heavy barrel? At least for a start....
Yeah I have been eyeing the rem 700 maybe with a mdt chassis. Just gets up there in price.

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kennymo
07-27-2016, 07:13 AM
Yeah I have been eyeing the rem 700 maybe with a mdt chassis. Just gets up there in price.

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Well you can get the chassis look from a Ruger Precision, the new Mossberg offering or some of the Savage offerings for less than buying a rifle and chassis seperately. Or grab the rifle now and save up for a chassis later....

Kavi09
07-27-2016, 07:18 AM
Well you can get the chassis look from a Ruger Precision, the new Mossberg offering or some of the Savage offerings for less than buying a rifle and chassis seperately. Or grab the rifle now and save up for a chassis later....
Yeah the mossberg mvp comes chambered in 223 but looking at reviews online people have had problems with the accuracy. The ruger precision is awesome in the 6.5 Creedmoor but again rounds are hard to find and still quite expensive. Maybe its time to just cross the hand load threshold lol.

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headhunter2
07-27-2016, 03:04 PM
I was not impressed with my MVP for the 2 previous years that I shot it. A lot the the problems I know is this old shooter trying to get the targets I use to get. Also using Chinese bulk ammo. Even tried other ammo and it shot better but not good. Decided to use up the bulk ammo this last few months. The targets started getting better such that I was getting 1" horizontal 3 shot strings at 100 yards. I shoot a lot of other firearms and know I am not as good a shot as I use to be. My 17HMR, 22-250, 22 Hornet, 243, 7mm all shoot just about the same group but not in a line.

Allen
07-28-2016, 11:53 PM
I'm in the same boat. Been looking at the Remington 783 in .223. Seems to be well received on here in some of the other threads. Cheaper ammo than most other centre fire calibers. If you want cheapest ammo and a cheap gun to boot you should also look at Russian SKS'. I believe they are currently $230 on average. Not hard to find in decent shape and the price of surplus ammo can't be beat.

Justice
07-30-2016, 10:40 AM
"....270 is quite expensive..." Reloading will help. Still won't be exactly cheap though.
"...can accept AR stocks..." Nothing does that that isn't restricted or really expensive.
A bolt action .223 varmint rifle will be your best bet. Think Savage Axis for an entry level rifle.
Mind you, ain't no rife that's as much fun for screwing around shooting than an SKS. Assuming accuracy isn't a priority. A Mini-14 fits that description too, but they're way too expensive for poor accuracy. Used to be that an M1 Carbine beat all of 'em, but Trudeau the Elder ruined that. Also used to be that reloading for any milsurp filled the requirement too. Mosin-Nagant maybe.

Kavi09
08-09-2016, 10:20 PM
Well I went with a .223 rem 700. Figured it could be a yote gun and fun gun too. MDT makes excellent stocks for many bolt guns in a non restricted fashion. Might do some upgrading for christmas... who wants to tell my wife?

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Swampdonkey
08-09-2016, 10:27 PM
Another vote for a Russian SKS. Limitless possibilities.

But a Remington 700 is never a bad choice. Congratulations.

ESnel
08-10-2016, 12:06 AM
Well I went with a .223 rem 700. Figured it could be a yote gun and fun gun too. MDT makes excellent stocks for many bolt guns in a non restricted fashion. Might do some upgrading for christmas... who wants to tell my wife?

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No need to tell your wife,leave it with me and I'll send regular videos and photos and make sure it's well fed and gets regular exercise

BrianBMC
05-05-2017, 08:32 PM
Love my Remington 700 varmit in 223 rem. just had the trigger recall done by Agency Gravel. Accurate, cheap ammo, no recoil. Just fun to shoot


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Westicle
05-06-2017, 01:20 AM
check out the tikka t3x varmit..... great gun for the price and awesome trigger.

MarkR
05-06-2017, 03:25 AM
Look at a Norinco JW 105. I just bought one of their bolt action .22s, and I love it. I think the JW 105 can be had new for just over $300.00; and it has way better sights than their .22 does.http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/a8LCxdqvIH0/mqdefault.jpg

sk8r
05-06-2017, 06:11 AM
I had a similar issue - didn't want to use my .308 BLR as a Range gun & couldn't afford to anyway. So I went to my Savage in .223, fun, but still a bit too pricey specially over the last year or so with a low Cdn $..... So, I went with a Marlin XT in .22 WMR - pretty accurate out to 200 yds (with a Bushnell HD 3x-9x 40 mm scope on it). Much cheaper than either of the others, and tons of fun (just a long as the wind is calm.......:rolleyes: ). Still more $ than a .22, but great at 200 yds . Just my 2-cents. :)

shootist1873
05-30-2017, 02:17 AM
If you start reloading in a small way, you can cut your .270 shooting costs by half, and still shoot jacketed bullets.
And, it will give you something to do with all of those shiny brass cases that you have been accumulating.
$50.00 will buy you a Lee Loader, and though it might seem a little primitive at first, it will load cartridges just as well as a press.
As long as the brass was shot in your rifle, it can be used. (Lee Loaders only neck-size the case.)
Or, you can buy a reloading press kit from Cabela's for a few hundred dollars.

shootist1873
05-30-2017, 09:49 PM
Others can correct me if I'm wrong, but 2" to 4" is about the best you can expect.

But, just as with a rifle that gives 1/2 MOA, the important thing is working on your ability to shoot up to the potential of the rifle.

Sounds about right. But, 2-4 inches is excellent practical accuracy for what is a military carbine designed primarily for man-sized targets at 50-150 yards.
Certainly more accurate than the average M1 Carbine was in my experience.

The biggest problems with the SKS are the terrible and heavy trigger pull, crappy accuracy with surplus corrosive ammo, and getting used to the battle sights.

infidel29
06-01-2017, 05:00 PM
Sounds about right. But, 2-4 inches is excellent practical accuracy for what is a military carbine designed primarily for man-sized targets at 50-150 yards.
Certainly more accurate than the average M1 Carbine was in my experience.

The biggest problems with the SKS are the terrible and heavy trigger pull, crappy accuracy with surplus corrosive ammo, and getting used to the battle sights.

Two out of three are solved with buying my SKS listed in the marketplace. :D

Petamocto
06-01-2017, 05:06 PM
You're basically providing a list of reasons to get an AR15, or an SKS if you're a dirty hillbilly communist savage.

If you want .223/5.56 without the restrictions of an AR, get a Benelli MR1 or Ruger Mini or Type 97.

kennymo
06-01-2017, 06:34 PM
Just had a look at a T97 with the FTU installed.... I was saving up for a mini 14....but.....stupid decisions....

Looking at another truck this weekend....hopefully this is the one, then I can get back to gun stuff....

RedZedX3
06-24-2017, 08:34 PM
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Of all the rifles I own, I still enjoy shooting my Mosin the most. Cheap .30 cal round that can connect with the 500m steel gong at the local range using iron sights. Rifle is a '35 Tula hex receiver, numbers match except the bayonet. Got it from the local Canadian Tire for $275. I think I like tearing it down and cleaning it as much as I do shooting it.

glockfan
06-25-2017, 08:56 AM
How's the accuracy on the SKS at 100?

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if you care about the words ''''accuracy & fun gun'''' put together in the same sentence, look elsewhere. maybe a random 4 moa at 100 in stock trim depending the ammo used ......but it really is a fun gun if accuracy isn't the first requirement . it serves nothing to aim cautiously and work on your breathing with an sks. you aim and shoot LOL. the faster you can LOL!!

Allen
06-25-2017, 12:21 PM
Double post, sorry

ruger#1
07-04-2017, 03:36 AM
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Of all the rifles I own, I still enjoy shooting my Mosin the most. Cheap .30 cal round that can connect with the 500m steel gong at the local range using iron sights. Rifle is a '35 Tula hex receiver, numbers match except the bayonet. Got it from the local Canadian Tire for $275. I think I like tearing it down and cleaning it as much as I do shooting it.

I remember my father had one of those. He bought it as a package deal Nangent and a 3006 Brazilian Mauser. For $135. From S.I.R. I sure miss that store. Great deals.

linung
07-04-2017, 03:03 PM
I remember my father had one of those. He bought it as a package deal Nangent and a 3006 Brazilian Mauser. For $135. From S.I.R. I sure miss that store. Great deals.

nice deal! I'd take it too if it were available.
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magnumsmith
07-04-2017, 08:13 PM
Fun and accurate for me was a 22-250. I got it for next to nothing and ammo seemed to be cheap. You can get all weights of bullets, lots of reload data. Speed does kill and with a 40 grain bullet at 4000 fps you can watch it hit the target before the full impact of the recoil. Now that's fun. It even melts plastic on the way through.