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Jim Bob
08-26-2016, 01:39 PM
.308 or 7mm-08. Buyin a new rifle. Thoughts?

kennymo
08-26-2016, 02:28 PM
Six one way, half dozen the other. .308 ammo is probably easier to find in a pinch, but you reload so it's not really an issue.... I'd probably get the 7mm, since I already have a .308 and no 7mm's in the safe. I'd really like a 7x57 Mauser though....

Swampdonkey
08-26-2016, 03:04 PM
I vote 7mm-08, but minor difference between them.

Rory McCanuck
08-26-2016, 03:30 PM
I'd go 7mm-08, all the hitting power with better ballistics and less recoil.
Or just get a 260 ;)

Jim Bob
08-26-2016, 04:55 PM
I have a rem 770 in .308. Always loved the round, kinda hate the rifle. Would like a rem 700.

BrotherRockeye
08-27-2016, 03:22 AM
what Rory said...minus the .260 line

I have a TC 7-08 that my buddies wife will be using this year. Very accurate rig and pleasant to fire.

road kill
08-27-2016, 06:40 AM
I would go with the 7-08, just as soon as I could dump the Rem 770.

zulu
08-27-2016, 07:51 AM
I'd go 7-08 just because it's more interesting

Hotwheels81
08-30-2016, 08:09 PM
I've owned a TC pro hunter in 7-08 and a savage 11 I pimped out with the usual B&C stock, RB trigger, McGowan SM #7 HV etc etc... To say I regret selling/trading them is an understatement.... Every deer I pointed the TC at fell down like god himself hit the off button when the hammer fell, friend of mine has a model 7 synthetic in 7-08 and he has taken moose with it every fall... Most consistent bang/flops I've ever witnessed but I ain't tried a 280 "yet".

Justice
08-31-2016, 11:08 AM
Coin toss. The 7mm with a 140 grain bullet at 2860 fps produces 12.6 ft-lbs. of recoil energy out an 8 lb. rifle. A .308 150 grain(no 140 grain data) at 2800 fps out of a 7.5 lb. rifle(no 8 lb. rifle data. Close counts.) produces 15.8 ft-lbs.
Mind you, a .308 will be more versatile. About 37 different .30 cal bullets made by Sierra alone. 17 different 7mm bullets.
Ballistics is very close. Both of 'em drop like bricks past 300 yards.
Whole lot depends on the rifle's primary purpose, but it really doesn't make a great deal of difference. Both will kill any game you care to hunt, but the .308 will do big bears. Not so sure about the 7mm. Heavy bullets(like 175 grainers for big bears. Assuming that applies.) in it appears to be a reloading thing only.

50 B.M.G.
08-31-2016, 12:29 PM
.308 or 7mm-08. Buyin a new rifle. Thoughts?

Questions.
Do you reload? What type of rifle?

Curtis264
09-12-2016, 12:46 AM
What about the .338 federal all three are based on the .308 win. From what I have read it is the best of those 3

Crobar
10-01-2016, 02:56 PM
I just went .308 in a Howa Alpine and it seems to be a nice package.
It weighs exactly 7 lbs. scoped and ready to go, 20" barrel.
A nice walking around rifle.
I had the same rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor until my Son took it away from me.

Foxer
10-01-2016, 03:44 PM
What is it you intend to use the gun for? Hunting? (if so, what), targets? SHTF gun?

BgBlkDg
10-02-2016, 10:15 AM
I have owned several rifles/combo guns in .308 and it is among my most favoured rounds. It is so useful and versatile and I find it kicks very softly. I sold all mine except my Miroku-Browning Mod. 7500 O/U in .308x12 and my custom very light STS short classic Mod. 70, receiver trued, slabbed, barrel 22" and Micky Edge FWT stock. Work by Kolenbrander and the stock done by a friend, who beadblasted some original P-64 alloy bottom metal and reworked it for the shorter receiver.

It now wears Talley silver QD mounts, with a Brockman rear with peep and a ramp front with a Burris Sourdough. It has a Leupy 2.5x8 and weighs about 6.75 lbs, all up but empty. I will keep this one as I have a matching one in .338WM, and they are my "truck rifles" as I wont leave my Martini-Dakota .338 in my Taco.

I have only one 7-08 and it is a full custom by Mitch Kendall and the late Mick McPhee. A four hole STS Mod. 7, Gaillard tube at 22", modded synthetic U/L stock and rebuilt trigger. It is trued, slabbed and has "speed lock bolt innards, alloy shroud and a Ti bolt handle welded on. It wears Talley QDs and an early Leupy 1.75x6 MHD. It SHOOTS, too and weighs a hair over 6 lbs. all up as above.

Quite honestly, I prefer "more gun" for most BC uses, but, this will do it with appropriate bullets. There is SO little REAL difference in functional exterior ballistics that I don't worry about it and rifles of both chamberings can be built very light without kicking the snot out of we older guys, while we can also carry them all day (barely) ;)

That said, in May 2015, I somehow bought a Kimber Mountain Ascent .280AI and have some fine loads for it.......it weighs about 6.5 all up and now I use it and a .338 almost every trip, so.............

My advice, after 52 years of gun ownership, scores of fine rifles and a lot of use, buy the rifle in either chambering that YOU LIKE BEST and start to handload for it.

762shooter
10-03-2016, 11:25 PM
I vote 7mm-08, but minor difference between them.

Yes, 7mm - 08 is theoretically more efficient (flatter shooting) but the difference is not huge at typical hunting ranges. On the other hand, lots of ammo and bullet choices in .308.

Kenwp
10-07-2016, 09:00 PM
The easy way out is just own both and have the best of two worlds.

Swampdonkey
10-07-2016, 09:04 PM
The easy way out is just own both and have the best of two worlds.

And two kinds of ammunition?

lone-wolf
10-07-2016, 09:09 PM
7mm is voodoo

Rory McCanuck
10-07-2016, 09:51 PM
7mm is voodoo

Hope so, just loaded 46 of them up ;D

Kenwp
10-10-2016, 02:52 PM
And two kinds of ammunition?

If i only had two kinds of ammo to worry about my life would be very boring to say the least.

Specter Arms
10-10-2016, 08:02 PM
.308

Buck shot
01-08-2017, 07:49 PM
7mm-08!!! When I started out I had a 30-06 semi. I was looking to buy my first bolt action rifle, everyone I knew had a .270 .308 or .30-06 and I wanted something different that want so common. I decided on a 7mm-08 and have never looked back, it is a very underrated cartridge. It is by far my favourite.

Ammo might be a little harder to find for the 7mm-08, but it wasn't that big of a deal for me. I have since got into hand loading and that opened up a lot more variety of bullet weights for me, but most common are 120-140gr and with the .308 150-180 are most common. Depending on what you are doing with it might dictate the bullet weight needed, for plinking, and deer sized game 7mm-08 is more than enough. If something bigger, like moose is on tap than .308 might be a better choice. But with today's premium bullets the gap isn't as big as it used to be.

bjmurata
01-14-2017, 08:26 AM
The easy way out is just own both and have the best of two worlds.
LOL!! Ya, I've done that a time or two over the years just to keep things interesting.

GHL1
02-22-2017, 01:17 PM
If you want to go 7mm, then you may want to consider a 280. I know that it was not one of the choices.

gtr
02-23-2017, 10:28 AM
If you reload you could try the 7mm. Ammo is cheaper and easier to come by, for the 308 however. You won't notice much difference between the two, nor will your target.

Gunexpert007
02-23-2017, 08:28 PM
Go for the 308.....you never know if the ammo supply for the 7mm-08 will be around in a few years or not .

murph83
02-23-2017, 10:02 PM
.308

texnwar
08-04-2017, 03:59 AM
.308


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ruger#1
08-06-2017, 11:08 AM
If you reload you could try the 7mm. Ammo is cheaper and easier to come by, for the 308 however. You won't notice much difference between the two, nor will your target. Less kick in a 7mm08. Thinner bullet and better penetration. If you reload. You can neck down the 308 to 7mm08. Not everyone carries 7mm08 Ammo.

Nester
08-06-2017, 08:01 PM
7mm08 :shoot2:

maziar1396
08-23-2017, 03:31 PM
Hi there! This is my k98 .308 rifle with tactical stock33633364

Justice
08-24-2017, 11:08 AM
OP is a year old.

Swampdonkey
08-24-2017, 01:24 PM
^^^

Don't mind him, he was raised in an Ontario public school.

Welcome to GOC.

Marner
08-24-2017, 08:19 PM
An age old question. In this case a year old. The answer is 7mm-08.

I have a 7mm-08 model 70 CRF Compact Classic w/ Leopold VX111 1.5-5. It is a sweet little rig, everyone should have one.

hawk-i
08-24-2017, 08:29 PM
Less kick in a 7mm08. Thinner bullet and better penetration. If you reload. You can neck down the 308 to 7mm08. Not everyone carries 7mm08 Ammo.

What do you mean IF you reload. ..
Doesn't everyone reload?

linung
08-25-2017, 07:12 AM
What do you mean IF you reload. ..
Doesn't everyone reload?

I got no reloading gear!

So NO, not everyone.

BrotherRockeye
08-25-2017, 01:15 PM
I got no reloading gear!

So NO, not everyone.

turn in yer man card Nancy :p

ruger#1
08-27-2017, 11:32 AM
What do you mean IF you reload. ..
Doesn't everyone reload?

There are a lot of people that do not reload. And they still harvest their game. I reload, And still come across deals that are cheaper then reloading.

hawk-i
08-27-2017, 04:49 PM
There are a lot of people that do not reload. And they still harvest their game. I reload, And still come across deals that are cheaper then reloading.

Yeah but you do reload!

ruger#1
08-27-2017, 07:59 PM
Yeah but you do reload! Read my post again.

Loldarian
08-28-2017, 09:07 AM
.308

LEGION
10-30-2017, 06:06 PM
7mm-08 and yes i reload just saying

mg4201
11-29-2017, 08:24 PM
.308, just because of the 200 grain nosler partition. The .308 is my second favorite cartridge, after the 6.5x55.

Petamocto
11-30-2017, 07:19 AM
Cost and availability are huge factors in any equation.

Far too often people get too focused on the ballistics of one cartridge vs another, and they get isolated in that bubble and buy a rifle based on that.

Shotguns are the same thing, people will say "Well if a 20 gauge can basically accomplish similar effects as a 12 gauge with half the recoil, then I'll take a 20 gauge". Then they go to buy ammo and see that there is 100 sq ft of 12 gauge ammo to choose from, and it's all cheaper than the 2 sq ft of options of 20 gauge ammo.

308 and 30.06 will continue to dominate the 30 cal popularity market for quite some time, and that generates a cycle of more rifle options, more ammo options, more availability of ammo, less cost per round, etc.

All that to say, don't choose a cartridge because it pushes a bullet at 2850fps over the one that shoots 2840fps, if the second one is infinitely more available and cheaper.

Edit: I just saw that I got baited into a thread revival, dammit.

BgBlkDg
11-30-2017, 07:31 AM
.308, just because of the 200 grain nosler partition. The .308 is my second favorite cartridge, after the 6.5x55.

Two of my favourites, the old Swede and it's buddy, the 7x57 are probably the best starting cartridges for novice hunters after ungulates and as useful for we elderly geezers who learn to put a good bullet in the boilerroom.

Thread is a good one, I would much prefer to see the use of the 6.5 Swede, .260Rem., 7-08 and 7x57 stressed for average hunters who seem to shoot fewer than 100 rounds per year than all the BS about 700 yd. shots, the .338Edge and 6.5x20 scopes that so many gun forums are full of now.