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blacksmithden
11-11-2016, 11:59 PM
A friend and I spent the day at the Edson range today. I made hits at 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800, 1000, 1100, 1200, 1300, and 1600 meters
There aren't any targets at 900 and we couldn't figure out if the second longest ones were 1400 or 1500, so I didn't waste the ammo....just jumped right to 1600. I originally thought I got 4, but I see in the pic that I actually grazed the top left corner, for a total of 5. Hey...I'm getting better at this long range thing. :)

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb93/blacksmithden/Edson%20Range%20-%201%20mile%20-%20Nov%2011%202016_zps2lwh5qgt.jpg

Rory McCanuck
11-12-2016, 12:04 AM
Wow! Good shooting!

Brad
11-12-2016, 04:22 AM
Pretty cool, good shooting. I'm envious of your range, 100m is the maximum I can get here.

arancio
11-12-2016, 06:37 AM
Pretty cool, good shooting. I'm envious of your range, 100m is the maximum I can get here.

Use smaller targets.

SIR VEYOR
11-12-2016, 07:12 AM
Pretty cool, good shooting. I'm envious of your range, 100m is the maximum I can get here.

There are longer ranges than 100m in NS. Likely under a two hour drive from you. BSD isn't exactly driving around the corner to shoot.

coastal
11-12-2016, 07:36 AM
So awesome, just curious, how many shots does it take you to get it on steel at that range? I've never shot anywhere near that far.

Doug_M
11-12-2016, 07:43 AM
There are longer ranges than 100m in NS. Likely under a two hour drive from you. BSD isn't exactly driving around the corner to shoot.

Not many and they are too expensive and regimented. MVRRC would be the only reasonably priced range. 2 hour drive for me but I'll likely join one of these years. Still it only goes to 400m, and NSRA is the longest at only 600m. There is nothing that comes close to where BSD was shooting.


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tigrr
11-12-2016, 10:04 AM
Looks like you have that rifle dialed in Den. I'm waiting for ice to set up my target across the lake.

blacksmithden
11-12-2016, 01:37 PM
So awesome, just curious, how many shots does it take you to get it on steel at that range? I've never shot anywhere near that far.

Oh...that would be lots. :) I honestly wasn't keeping track. I started off with around 120ish rounds of ammo and worked my way down the range. I finally got my dope for 1100, 1200, and 1300 too, so I was really happy with that. the first 20 rounds I fired were junk stuff that I didn't like the feel of when I was seating the bullets. They actually had a dent ring around the bullet from excessive pressure during seating. They still shot just fine as far as I was concerned. The last hundred were what I considered to be perfect. Let's say I shot somewhere between 20 and 30 rounds at the mile ???

I find the real problem with shooting that far is seeing if you've made a hit. The 22 power magnification in the scope, mixed with a little bit of heat mirage both coming off the barrel (we were running out of daylight) and some coming off the range, and its just a white shape with wiggling furry edges. Fortunately, we had my buddy's big spotting scope there, and we were able to make out that we were getting some hits...we thought we could see them at least. At the end of the day, we drove down to check the plate and paint it for the next guy. That's when we knew for sure. I'd say only about 10% of the time, you can pick out the dirt splash of your misses in the backstop. I swear, sometimes I wonder if the thing isn't made of sponge. LOL.

One thing I did notice was how much just a little bit of wind change, changes the game.
The first day I made hits at a mile, there was a light wind...maybe 5-7 km/h coming straight at us. I had 67.25 moa of elevation dialed in.
Yesterday, there was a light drifting breeze blowing away from us...maybe 2-3 km/h. I was using 60.75 moa of elevation.
If you ever get the chance, solidly mount a rifle with the scope dialed up to 22x power on an object that's a mile away, that you know the size of.....then move your elevation adjustment on the scope by 6.5 moa and see how much your point of aim has moved. Its a LOT. :)

Now, those winds were interpretations of it, up on the hill, inside the shelter. Looking at the flags as you go down range, they're pointing in different directions due to various ground effects....and there's no shortage of stuff at Edson to mess around with ground level wind. I don't pretend to know how to read wind well...far from it.....much less know how to take into account multiple wind direction changes throughout a bullet's flight to 1600 meters. I'm just not that good, and that's all there is to it. Maybe that's something that will come with more trigger time. The range is a 2 to 2.5 hour drive for me each way, so it'll never be something I can go out and do every weekend.

Lee Enfield
11-12-2016, 01:49 PM
Den, maybe I missed it but what were you shooting, you know all the details, gun, load, bullet etc.

thanks

tigrr
11-12-2016, 02:47 PM
There is a lot of variables in long range shooting. If it rains you need less elevation. Rain drops going down air going up.
Wait till you get after the 2000, 2500 and 3000 meter targets Den. I can only see certain colours that far away. I have come to the conclusion that the target will have to be 8 foot square to see at 3 kms. White, yellow or florescent orange in colour.

blacksmithden
11-12-2016, 03:17 PM
Den, maybe I missed it but what were you shooting, you know all the details, gun, load, bullet etc.

thanks

The rifle is my EM Precision custom build. 300 win mag. 70.2 grains of IMR 7828SSC. 208 grain Hornady match boat tail hollow points. Hornady brass.


There is a lot of variables in long range shooting. If it rains you need less elevation. Rain drops going down air going up.
Wait till you get after the 2000, 2500 and 3000 meter targets Den. I can only see certain colours that far away. I have come to the conclusion that the target will have to be 8 foot square to see at 3 kms. White, yellow or florescent orange in colour.

I'm the same way. I'm horribly color blind. Even florescent orange is a real challenge past 500 meters. Unfortunately, the club rules say that only color you can paint the gongs is orange. Over the summer, people have been painting them white, red, orange...you name it. They just reminded everyone that orange is the only color allowed in the last news letter. White is easiest for me to see against a dark backstop. Yellow would be next...then orange. Anything else, forget it. The problem with white is that once it snows...poof...everything is gone. When we left, we did paint them orange, as per the rules. I hope that once there's snow on the ground, they stand out more for me. Yellow would be the best choice for me year round. Maybe I'll send in an email asking if we could amend the rules to allow yellow.

greywolf67nt
11-12-2016, 05:38 PM
A friend and I spent the day at the Edson range today. I made hits at 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800, 1000, 1100, 1200, 1300, and 1600 meters
There aren't any targets at 900 and we couldn't figure out if the second longest ones were 1400 or 1500, so I didn't waste the ammo....just jumped right to 1600. I originally thought I got 4, but I see in the pic that I actually grazed the top left corner, for a total of 5. Hey...I'm getting better at this long range thing. :)

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb93/blacksmithden/Edson%20Range%20-%201%20mile%20-%20Nov%2011%202016_zps2lwh5qgt.jpg

You keep ruining these stories with your picture in it. You know they have photoshop programs where you could put somebody better looking in there like Freddie Krueger or John Merrick.
Besides that excellent shooting.

blacksmithden
11-13-2016, 09:21 PM
You keep ruining these stories with your picture in it. You know they have photoshop programs where you could put somebody better looking in there like Freddie Krueger or John Merrick.
Besides that excellent shooting.

Hey...I dressed up for the occasion. Is that enough ? :)

6MT
11-15-2016, 11:20 AM
Nice shoot'n, Tex!

BuckingFastard
11-16-2016, 12:58 PM
Looks like you got that set up dialled in, a mile out is pretty impressive

Camo tung
11-16-2016, 01:58 PM
What size is that plate? 2 1/2' square?

blacksmithden
11-16-2016, 07:43 PM
What size is that plate? 2 1/2' square?

I never actually measure it to be honest. You're probably pretty close though. 18"x24"ish ?

6MT
11-16-2016, 09:37 PM
Sure looks loke a silloette to me.

firemachine69
11-18-2016, 08:20 PM
The rifle is my EM Precision custom build. 300 win mag. 70.2 grains of IMR 7828SSC. 208 grain Hornady match boat tail hollow points. Hornady brass.



I'm the same way. I'm horribly color blind. Even florescent orange is a real challenge past 500 meters. Unfortunately, the club rules say that only color you can paint the gongs is orange. Over the summer, people have been painting them white, red, orange...you name it. They just reminded everyone that orange is the only color allowed in the last news letter. White is easiest for me to see against a dark backstop. Yellow would be next...then orange. Anything else, forget it. The problem with white is that once it snows...poof...everything is gone. When we left, we did paint them orange, as per the rules. I hope that once there's snow on the ground, they stand out more for me. Yellow would be the best choice for me year round. Maybe I'll send in an email asking if we could amend the rules to allow yellow.



At least you have gongs. Paper only here in Bantario... :rolleyes:

Lee Enfield
11-24-2016, 03:46 PM
I never actually measure it to be honest. You're probably pretty close though. 18"x24"ish ?

Curse you Den! I have decided I need to get a .300 Win Mag, &*%^&!

stevesummit
11-25-2016, 08:26 AM
Now to get a new rifle built for Den so he can join the 1.5 mile club ! It should only cost him 8-10 grand !

blacksmithden
11-25-2016, 11:35 AM
Now to get a new rifle built for Den so he can join the 1.5 mile club ! It should only cost him 8-10 grand !

If you've got the place, I've got the elevation adjustment. :)

Dmay
11-25-2016, 12:16 PM
If you've got the place, I've got the elevation adjustment. :)


You've been to the place......at least mighty close to it......



Ooops, sorry Steve......okay, only new rifles allowed!

LifeLine
01-26-2017, 03:42 AM
Whats your vekocity for your load? I was on tge fence between 7828ssc and h1000.same bullet and brass for my 300wm