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Ishkabibble
08-29-2012, 06:15 PM
Here's a photo of our rifle:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/Tony1M/rifle.jpg

I like the stock, but I'd like it more if it would also fold. Is there available on the market a metal insert that would install somewhere near or on the receiver that would allow the present stock to fold, say like the Galil does?

Satain
08-29-2012, 08:51 PM
Well first of all...
Welcome.
& now the easiest, cheapest and quickest way to accomplish this is;
Cheapest that ships to Canada:
http://www.opsgear.com/index/page/product/product_id/4177/product_name/UTG+AK47+Side+Folding+Stock+Adaptor
Another option:
http://www.ironeagletactical.com/products.html
What it looks like:
http://www.ironeagletactical.com/images/product/ruger_sr-22_iron_eagle_tactical_model_141/ruger_sr-22_iron_eagle_tactical_model_141_TL_K7FAD01_PRO_2. jpg
Now there is another way to go. This is from ACE but you would have to call Brownells and get it specialy ordered for you:
You will need this to screw into the NEA stock adaptor;
http://riflestocks.com/store/product29.html
Then screw this into that;
http://riflestocks.com/store/product106.html
Now with this option then you can get a Noveske sling plate and be able to sling your rifle plus you will not have to worry about this lock tite or that paaning that does nothing but drive you crazy when tring to remove it afterwards. This is why I all reccomend Dlask rear adaptors for the simple and plain reason that the end plate was designed for a reason and running it with out it only causes headaches down the road. Plus doing this ACE way from Brownells it still will land under the $100 limit so you will be golden too ;)
Now shill time is over :p
Have fun and post back with the final dirty pic ;)

Ishkabibble
08-30-2012, 09:19 AM
Well first of all...
Welcome.
& now the easiest, cheapest and quickest way to accomplish this is;
Cheapest that ships to Canada:
http://www.opsgear.com/index/page/product/product_id/4177/product_name/UTG+AK47+Side+Folding+Stock+Adaptor
Another option:
http://www.ironeagletactical.com/products.html
What it looks like:
http://www.ironeagletactical.com/images/product/ruger_sr-22_iron_eagle_tactical_model_141/ruger_sr-22_iron_eagle_tactical_model_141_TL_K7FAD01_PRO_2. jpg
Now there is another way to go. This is from ACE but you would have to call Brownells and get it specialy ordered for you:
You will need this to screw into the NEA stock adaptor;
http://riflestocks.com/store/product29.html
Then screw this into that;
http://riflestocks.com/store/product106.html
Now with this option then you can get a Noveske sling plate and be able to sling your rifle plus you will not have to worry about this lock tite or that paaning that does nothing but drive you crazy when tring to remove it afterwards. This is why I all reccomend Dlask rear adaptors for the simple and plain reason that the end plate was designed for a reason and running it with out it only causes headaches down the road. Plus doing this ACE way from Brownells it still will land under the $100 limit so you will be golden too ;)
Now shill time is over :p
Have fun and post back with the final dirty pic ;)

Thanks, Satain!

So, to install the device whose photo you have provided above, I would first loosen the present AR tube's locking castle nut and unscrew the tube from the female-threaded adapter that is already installed on the receiver.

I would then screw the male threaded part of the new, two-part hinge into the female threaded adapter that has remained on the receiver. Then, finally, I would screw the AR stock tube's male thread into the female-threaded part of the hinge and tighten the castle nut, correct?

Can I get away with just the one original castle nut, or am I going to need an additional one -- one to lock the hinge's male thread into the proper rotational position and the other to lock the AR tube's male thread into the proper rotaional position?

Does the new hinge somehow lock or snap into the non-folded and folded positions? If so, how? Are there one or two spring-loaded "detent" positions?

Can the hinge be installed so that the stock can fold to the right side, rather than the left? (I do not intend to fire the rifle with the stock folded.)

About the sling, I assume you mean that with the folding hinge installed, using the sling with the present sling hardware on the stock is going to cause the stock to fold unexpectedly, correct? As you can see, I don't use the sling now. I don't intend to in the future, either, but what you say is worth some thought, anyway, just in case I decide to do that. Is there some device available that would insall between the present adapter on the receiver and the receiver to which one could attach the sling?

Thanks again.

Satain
08-30-2012, 05:01 PM
Hing works like the galil folder idea.
Remove the buffer tube.
Screw on the castle nut on to the male thread part of the folder hinge all the way.
A light dab of blue locktite on the male thread of the folder hinge. LIGHT MEANING LIGHT!
Screw into the NEA stock adaptor as far as it can go but it still lines up with the set screw on the female side facing down.
Then tighten down the castle nut all the way.
Screw the buffer tube back on to the female side of the hinge.
Then line it up with the set screw that will go right in to that grouve found on the bottom side of the buffer tube. I also apply a light amount of lock tite. LIGHT MEANING LIGHT!
As for the sling part. I found that having the stock folded that it was imposible to sling it comfertably over my sholder while hiking, runing, ect. But now with the end plate version with the QD sling mount I found that I could just pop it off when ever I felt it and also comfertabley have it slinged doing what ever I pleased. Plus with the end plate version I found that there was no need for lock tite around the castle nut area because it lock's it in to place.
As for seting up a bungy type loop around the male side of the hindge is posible. Talk to Darren at One Shot Tactical. As he has the gear sitting in his shop.
http://www.oneshottactical.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=oneshot&Category_Code=SL
Personally I would not cheap out on this part. The proper use of a sling has won me not only a few keg dinners but also some nice pay day's ;)
Hence I would recommend a vickers although opsgear also has some slings that would work for you also. But be carefull getting them cheap ones cause they do fray easly and constantly have to be replaced.

Ishkabibble
08-30-2012, 06:48 PM
Thanks for all your help, Satain! I appreciate it.

I assume you mean by "NEA stock adapter" that the one that is presently on our gun is an NEA adapter? If so, do you happen to know if the adapter (again, that is presently on the rifle) can be reversed (installed upside down), so that the stock angles down a bit rather than remaining essentially in line with the barrel?

Thanks again.

Satain
08-31-2012, 07:54 PM
Nope. Sorry only 1 way this model can be installed.
Dlask does have the angle 1 though;
https://www.dlaskarms.com//product_info.php?cPath=69_38_44&products_id=66&osCsid=9f33102e405e128b2310e27753ba7d48
Off topic...
Kind of wierd that NEA made a straight angle stock adaptor twice even though they preach about there "Co-Witness". And with this stock angle it is next to imposible to use the irons looking threw a optic mounted on the rail.
Now back on topic...
With the straight line stock and the optic mount you have should almost be golden but you might require a slight check elevation. That is if you prefer to shoot with your red dot cause those irons you will not be able to use. That is untill you un-clip it.
http://www.opsgear.com/index/page/product/product_id/882/product_name/M16++AR15+Collapsible+Stock+Raised+Cheek+Pad
http://www.opsgear.com/common/images/products/large/LPR-RB-A487_02_lg.jpg

Ishkabibble
09-01-2012, 08:11 AM
Thanks again, Satain.

I emailed Opsgear a few days ago about the hinger, a butt pad and a castle-nut wrench, but they have not replied. Is this delay typical and my query will eventually be answered, or do I have to do some "cage-rattling" by phone?

Thanks again.

Satain
09-03-2012, 12:25 AM
Buh? But it is the long weekend down there too. So who knows on that 1.
Sorry.

Ishkabibble
09-25-2012, 01:52 PM
A few weeks ago I ordered the Opsgear folding-stock adapter and it finally arrived today (along with a very nice butt pad). Included was an extra castle nut.

Installation was bone simple and here's the result:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/Tony1M/Adapter5-1.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/Tony1M/Adapter4.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/Tony1M/Adapter3-1.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/Tony1M/Adapter2.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/Tony1M/Adapter1-1.jpg

So far I'm very pleased with the adapter. I won't be operating the mechanism that often -- only to allow the rifle to fit onto a single shelf of a business safe and not take up too much room.

BTW, both of the above plus shipping came to a grand total of around $32 -- an amount of money that I can easily live without.

Many thanks to Satain for pointing out this option to me.

Satain
09-25-2012, 03:12 PM
AWESOME!
Glad I could help ya out on that killer looking rig.
NOW GET OUT THERE AND RUN HER HARD ;)

matty86suk
09-25-2012, 07:59 PM
Kind of wierd that NEA made a straight angle stock adaptor twice even though they preach about there "Co-Witness". And with this stock angle it is next to imposible to use the irons looking threw a optic mounted on the rail.
Now back on topic...
With the straight line stock and the optic mount you have should almost be golden but you might require a slight check elevation. That is if you prefer to shoot with your red dot cause those irons you will not be able to use. ]

That's funny. I have been saying that for years, the NEA adapter goes good with the bct hand guards though.