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mlehto
09-20-2012, 06:29 AM
Well i will get right to it.........

FREAKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Having owned an M&P 9, I can say this is a very close replica, and would make a great trainer.

Fit and finish is just as good as the originals, and the quality of the gun is obvious when you take it apart. Nothing about it felt cheap, and I was very impressed as I was expecting something along the lines of a P22. ;)

The mags are very well made, and really impressed me, but you have to be careful loading them, making sure rounds are settling properly as you go.

The only downside is the safety which is a little out of place, but it really didn't bother me, and I may chop it off, but we will see what happens.

I have owned several .22 pistols(Ruger 22/45, Sig Mosquito, Norc M93, CZ Kadet), but I think that this has to be the favourite so far, or at least a close second to the CZ Kadet, but after price is considered the M&P wins. ;)

I put over 200 rounds of various ammo through it without a single failure. I had 100 rounds of Blazer, and 100 rounds of CCI Standard Velocity, as well as a handful of Winchester Expert HV, and they all worked just fine. The Blazer seemed pretty hard hitting compared to the others, but even the Standard Velocity cycled just fine which was impressive.

This was in no way a test for accuracy, and I didn't bother adjusting the sights as I had no idea which ammo she would like. The sights seemed to be a little off, and shots were slightly left, but it could have been me not being used to the heavier, mushy trigger. Accuracy was very good, the best being with the Standard Velocity with some one hole groups at 5 meters.

Bottom line is, if you are considering a .22 pistol, and don't like the space-guns that are the typical performers on the market, then the M&P 22 is a hell of a good deal.

Of course I have not torture tested it, but the reports all over the internet are very promising. ;)

I am working on some pictures as we speak, so hold your horses! :p

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy291/mlehtovaara/Snapbucket/51D3B2B8-orig_zpsf3b6e000.jpg

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy291/mlehtovaara/Snapbucket/FB38DEB5-orig_zpse0f7760a.jpg

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy291/mlehtovaara/Snapbucket/E98D3A04-orig_zpscc3ca9a1.jpg

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy291/mlehtovaara/Snapbucket/E26444C1-orig_zps1ace5899.jpg

1000 UPDATE:

Well I have just gone over 1000 rounds today, and still haven't cleaned the gun!!! :D

Full disclosure - I did have to run a bore brush through it to clean out some leading left by some Blazer today. I have put a box of Blazer through it on it's first trip without issue, but today I put 100 rounds of Blazer through it, and after about 60 rounds noticed accuracy was gone, and of course the bore was leaded real bad with the shitty Blazer... After that it ran fine with the remaining 40, and then another couple hundred of the Winchester Xpert HV.

Anyways, it still has not been oiled since the original cleaning, and I haven't cleaned any of the gunk off the rails, or out of the action. It is absolutely caked in powder residue at this point, as cheap bulk .22 will do that, so I think she deserves a cleaning at this point. ;)

Most of the 1000 rounds has been the Winchester Xpert HV Bulk packs, but it has seen about 100 rounds of CCI Standard Velocity, 150 Rounds of CCI Blazer, and a couple 50 round boxes of various ammo in initial testing.

It really seems to love the Winchester Xpert, and runs great with pretty good groupings, but the most consistent groups tend to come from the CCI Standard Velocity.

Couldn't tell you which ammo is which in these groups, but these are just some of the best 5 round groups from the last few trips.

All shot between 7 and 10 meters......

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy291/mlehtovaara/Snapbucket/422BCF57-orig.jpg

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy291/mlehtovaara/Snapbucket/E22DF1F1-orig.jpg

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy291/mlehtovaara/Snapbucket/184DCD55-orig.jpg

Anyways I am extremely happy so far, and the gun has only had a 2 failures in 1000 rounds, both of which seemed to be underloaded rounds that did not cycle the slide enough for the next round to strip off of the mag. Regardless for a .22 this thing is absolutely amazing! The fact that it is yet to be cleaned is even more amazing IMHO.

Only complaint that I have is the damn mags are impossible to find and I need more! LOL

If you are on the fence about this gun, do yourself a favour, and go buy it now!!!!!!!

Xtreme
09-20-2012, 11:02 AM
Thanks for the review, I'm looking for a .22 pistol for the wife's first handgun, will keep this in mind.

Stew Chunks
09-20-2012, 02:20 PM
Glock needs to get on board and make a 22LR in a similar fashion. I am interested in the SW but I don't want to change my platform

@simple
09-27-2012, 03:35 PM
I had it for two days on the range last February and I agree, it is a very close to M&P 9 and 40 (I mean how it looks), but I'm not sure about "a great trainer" - it feels different.
I had 6 FTF on ~150 rounds of CCI MiniMags. I compared it to Sig 226 .22 side-by-side and Sig performed much better (and 0 malfunctions), but M&P 22 was more comfortable in my hands (Sig had old non-E2 grip).

To Xtreme: I think, your wife should try it at the shooting range. My wife tried and... she didn't like it :) She prefers heavier Kadet.

mlehto
09-27-2012, 06:56 PM
Interesting on the 6 FTF......

I have been out a couple more times, and have put about 400 rounds through it now without even cleaning it, and still flawless.

I have been shooting the Winchester Xpert HV, and not a hitch. ;)

@simple
09-27-2012, 07:46 PM
Interesting on the 6 FTF......
Well, I did 4 mags rapid fire before first FTF. Also owner said this gun was extremely used by his kids, so he didn't know how many rounds this gun survived. Sig was not too old.


I have been out a couple more times, and have put about 400 rounds through it now without even cleaning it, and still flawless.
I have been shooting the Winchester Xpert HV, and not a hitch.
I hope you will be happy owner of this toy :)

sDot
09-27-2012, 08:12 PM
Have you tried the GSG 1911?

Satain
09-27-2012, 11:04 PM
Glock needs to get on board and make a 22LR in a similar fashion. I am interested in the SW but I don't want to change my platform
I hate Glock but I totaly agree with this statement.

Canuck223
09-29-2012, 06:31 AM
I had a talk about this subject last night. Basicly how the market seems to crave a real full size companion .22lr to the 9mm version, but rarely gets it. The Walther and others that seem more like toys than real guns. The conversion kits that seem to give up quality or reliability.

Few seem to live up to the sniff test once they are in hand.

I'm excited to get my hands on the Grand Power K22S when they land. It's built on the same Mk6 frame as the GP6 I currently shoot, and is not the first blow back fixed barrel gun that Grand Power has made. I hope it's like the CZ 75 Kadet, a quality stand alone gun.
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq274/Canuck223/GP6/K22.jpg

Shameless plug I suppose. Grand Power are my sponsor. Doesn't matter to me. The K22S was the one item I added to my wish list, but It's on my to-buy list regardless. With two boys learning to shoot, it's nice to have a same size rimfire to learn on.

mlehto
09-29-2012, 06:40 AM
Well brought it out to the range last night and put around 300 rounds through her with only 1 failure. That failure I blame on ammo, as it seemed to be an undecharged round that was noticeable, and didn't cycle the slide far enough to strip a new round from the mag.

Still haven't cleaned it, and we are around the 700 round mark now. ;p

There was another member shooting a GSG Conversion yesterday, and he had a few failures. LOL

I think I made the right choice. :D