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linung
06-24-2017, 01:27 PM
I don't know if it is bad luck or or bad ammo....

So far I've gone through 2 boxes of them.

:mad1: I got 3 missfire.

:red: about half the case sticks.

I suppose I should try some different type of ammo for my Remington 783.

It is really things like this that makes me wanna get into reloading.

FALover
06-24-2017, 02:07 PM
Hirtenberber is great ammo for military firearms. Some problems might arise when used in a bolt action rifle.

DILLIGAF
06-24-2017, 02:41 PM
works fine in my Cadex, I use it as plinking ammo all the time.

kennymo
06-24-2017, 03:35 PM
Military ammo made for self loading guns tends to have hard primers. I've heard good things about this stuff. If you have a case or two on hand it might be cause to pick up a Norinco M14....;)

linung
06-24-2017, 04:55 PM
Nope. Just 360 rounds.

I guess I'll just have to grim and bear it.

When I finish them, I'll have to get into reloading. I am guessing the sticky situation means I need to resize some of the casing.

kennymo
06-24-2017, 05:10 PM
Have you used this rifle much? The old man has a Remington 770, when it was new cases would stick like a bugger and the bolt had to be opened with a block of wood. Turns out the chamber has some sort of thick oil or grease left in it and the patch we ran through the barrel didn't take care of it. I put a 20 gauge mop on a section of cleaning rod, sprayed a little gun action cleaner in there then slid the mop in and spun it around a few times. No stuck casings since...

linung
06-24-2017, 06:41 PM
Have you used this rifle much? The old man has a Remington 770, when it was new cases would stick like a bugger and the bolt had to be opened with a block of wood. Turns out the chamber has some sort of thick oil or grease left in it and the patch we ran through the barrel didn't take care of it. I put a 20 gauge mop on a section of cleaning rod, sprayed a little gun action cleaner in there then slid the mop in and spun it around a few times. No stuck casings since...

So far only 37 rounds.. not counting the misfires. I think I should try the Barnauls. If it is a problem with the rifle, I should get same issues.
The inside looks clean. I shine a bore light in it.

6MT
06-24-2017, 08:42 PM
Great stuff. I've used it in factory bolt guns and custom bolt guns. Also had great luck in AR style gas guns. Yes, they do have pretty hard primers. It is pretty consistant. The bullets are glued with a black glue (fyi).

Mark-II
06-24-2017, 08:58 PM
My dad had the same issue with a savage axis and norinco (military surplus) 5.56 - most times it simply would not fire.

You can't always see gunk. If nothing else you could hose it out with brake cleaner, though keep that stuff off of not-metal and lube afterwards

linung
06-30-2017, 12:30 PM
So I went to the range today. burned through a box 20 round of Barnaul 308's.

No issues. No duds. None of the rounds have trouble ejecting.

So I guess it is a issue with the Hirtenberger.

DILLIGAF
06-30-2017, 12:37 PM
Its not the ammo, Your rifle isn't suited for this type of surplus.

Lee Enfield
06-30-2017, 03:43 PM
Its not the ammo, Your rifle isn't suited for this type of surplus.

I agree, used some Chicom .308, one round in a nice Savage 10, never again as it was really difficult to get the ctg. out. Only use it in a Norc 305 now. IMHO milsurp ammo can be a little inconsistent in all aspects and rarely good for a decent bolt gun.

superbad
06-30-2017, 05:15 PM
ive had 5 bad rounds out of 720 pack. 4 of them the bullet was 3mm longer with a bad crimp and one bad twisted primer. make sure you inspect the ammo but it shoots good.

linung
06-30-2017, 05:21 PM
so now am I suppose to use these with my Remington 783?

or do I now have 16 paper weights?

FALover
07-01-2017, 08:36 AM
Research your future purchases before spending your cash. Trade what ammo you have left for name brand commercial products and if you have to take a loss, chuck it up as a learning experience.

Mark-II
07-01-2017, 09:36 AM
If you have only 16 useless rounds you're ahead of the game.

Ask me sometime about the Federal standard velocity 22 that I bought on sale for cheap plinking ammo in my S&W 41, which is specked for only SV ammo.

I bought 5000 rounds or so.

It don't work

linung
07-01-2017, 12:54 PM
If you have only 16 useless rounds you're ahead of the game.

Ask me sometime about the Federal standard velocity 22 that I bought on sale for cheap plinking ammo in my S&W 41, which is specked for only SV ammo.

I bought 5000 rounds or so.

It don't work

16 boxes... that is 320 rounds.

kennymo
07-01-2017, 01:17 PM
The clear solution is to buy a Norc M305....and then more 7.62 surplus....it's a vicious cycle.

Justice
07-01-2017, 01:19 PM
Hirtenberger is considered to be high end ammo. Not all of it is milsurp either. However, if you're not reloading you have to try a box of as many brands as you can to find the ammo your rifle shoots best. That's unlikely to be milsurp NATO ball, if that's what you have. NATO ball is not made for great accuracy.

6MT
07-01-2017, 05:45 PM
It looks like the op has it up for sale.

linung
07-01-2017, 06:22 PM
It looks like the op has it up for sale.

why? bad idea?

Mark-II
07-01-2017, 11:43 PM
Selling ammo is never a bad idea to the guy buying it.

linung
07-13-2017, 03:51 PM
So I'm thinking about getting a Browning BLR or Parker Hale.

Would either of these rifles not like Hirtenberger?