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sltoronto
07-18-2017, 01:46 PM
This can clarify a lot of things:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8Kj-R4Ja08

RangeBob
07-18-2017, 02:04 PM
video also at
http://www.gunownersofcanada.ca/showthread.php?40982-Canadian-Regulatory-Agency-Tells-Alcohol-Retailers-Distributors-To-Stop-Selling-Some-Israeli-Wines&p=502638&viewfull=1#post502638

BCGUY12
07-18-2017, 02:48 PM
Amazing that anyone would listen to Ezra Levant or read anything he has written given that:

1. He is a failed lawyer; practiced briefly and resigned from the Law Society of Alberta with outstanding conduct complaints against him
2. He is a failed businessman; his magazine never became profitable so he shut it down
3. He is a failed columnist; both the Calgary Sun and National Post dropped him
4. He has been successfully sued for defamation at least 4 times (Ghitter, Vigna, Awan, Warman) and the threatened suit by George Soros was only avoided by a retraction and public apology
5. He has been found to have violated the Canadian Broadcasting Standards Council code of ethics multiple times
6. He worked as a lobbyist for the tobacco industry

sltoronto
07-18-2017, 04:05 PM
Amazing that anyone would listen to Ezra Levant or read anything he has written given that:

1. He is a failed lawyer; practiced briefly and resigned from the Law Society of Alberta with outstanding conduct complaints against him
2. He is a failed businessman; his magazine never became profitable so he shut it down
3. He is a failed columnist; both the Calgary Sun and National Post dropped him
4. He has been successfully sued for defamation at least 4 times (Ghitter, Vigna, Awan, Warman) and the threatened suit by George Soros was only avoided by a retraction and public apology
5. He has been found to have violated the Canadian Broadcasting Standards Council code of ethics multiple times
6. He worked as a lobbyist for the tobacco industry

having a choice between Ezra and any of the Lieberast or Dipper politicians or supporters - no contest from any of them ...

GonZo
07-18-2017, 04:09 PM
6. He worked as a lobbyist for the tobacco industry

Everyone needs a job.

Zinilin
07-18-2017, 04:47 PM
Amazing that anyone would listen to Ezra Levant or read anything he has written given that:

1. He is a failed lawyer; practiced briefly and resigned from the Law Society of Alberta with outstanding conduct complaints against him
2. He is a failed businessman; his magazine never became profitable so he shut it down
3. He is a failed columnist; both the Calgary Sun and National Post dropped him
4. He has been successfully sued for defamation at least 4 times (Ghitter, Vigna, Awan, Warman) and the threatened suit by George Soros was only avoided by a retraction and public apology
5. He has been found to have violated the Canadian Broadcasting Standards Council code of ethics multiple times
6. He worked as a lobbyist for the tobacco industry

Do you have any comment on the message ?

BCGUY12
07-19-2017, 09:10 AM
Do you have any comment on the message ?

You think I would listen to it given my post? That's hilarious, good one. Hahahaha.

Weekend Gunslingers
07-19-2017, 10:39 AM
I find it interesting how under the guise of giving rights to 2% of the population, they are in fact, taking rights (like free speech) away from the remaining 98% and get applauded for their "inclusiveness" by their followers.

sltoronto
07-19-2017, 02:49 PM
You think I would listen to it given my post? That's hilarious, good one. Hahahaha.

Totally understandable ... a LPC's supporter and Steven Harper's hater would never read or listen to anything like this ..
(suspect the former but one can easily find proof to the latter here at GOC) ..

old Soviet joke to the point - "I have never read that book/ watched that movie or performance/ visited that exhibition - but I totally agree with the Party strongly condemning it" ..

BCGUY12
07-19-2017, 02:50 PM
I find it interesting how under the guise of giving rights to 2% of the population, they are in fact, taking rights (like free speech) away from the remaining 98% and get applauded for their "inclusiveness" by their followers.

There have always been limits to free speech in organized society; what is not protected under the umbrella of "free speech" are threats of violence, inciting violence, slander, racist rants, hate speech, etc. Those that think they should be allowed to engage in any of these activities should choose to live in an anarchist society. There are many places in this world right now where anarchy is the norm.

BCGUY12
07-19-2017, 02:57 PM
Totally understandable ... a LPC's supporter and Steven Harper's hater would never read or listen to anything like this ..
(suspect the former but one can easily find proof to the latter here at GOC) ..

old Soviet joke to the point - "I have never read that book/ watched that movie or performance/ visited that exhibition - but I totally agree with the Party strongly condemning it" ..

From Wikipedia: On September 5, 2012, Levant broadcast a commentary that he titled "The Jew vs. the Gypsies" . . . In March 2013, Levant apologized for his remarks, stating that "I attacked a particular group, and painted them all with the same brush. And to those I hurt, I'm sorry" and expressed hope that this "will serve as an example of what not to do when commenting on social issues."

Ezra Levant has admitted to hate speech in the past. I have listened to enough of Ezra Levant to know that he has nothing of value to say.

Doug_M
07-19-2017, 03:10 PM
There have always been limits to free speech in organized society; what is not protected under the umbrella of "free speech" are threats of violence, inciting violence, slander, racist rants, hate speech, etc. Those that think they should be allowed to engage in any of these activities should choose to live in an anarchist society. There are many places in this world right now where anarchy is the norm.

"I believe in free speech but..."

Weekend Gunslingers
07-19-2017, 03:21 PM
There have always been limits to free speech in organized society; what is not protected under the umbrella of "free speech" are threats of violence, inciting violence, slander, racist rants, hate speech, etc. Those that think they should be allowed to engage in any of these activities should choose to live in an anarchist society. There are many places in this world right now where anarchy is the norm.

I agree there has always been limits. I was not remotely referring to "threats of violence, inciting violence, slander, racist rants, hate speech, etc." being ok. But where do you draw the line? An opposing religious view point may not be expressed now since it may be seen as hate speech? I am concerned about the situation where If you oppose my viewpoint, you are Islamophobic, a racist, bigot, fundamentalist...ist ist ist.

Swampdonkey
07-19-2017, 05:17 PM
Inciting violence is too subjective for my taste. Telling me I should beat the snot out of someone still makes it entirely my fault if I do.

GotSauer
07-19-2017, 05:28 PM
And I have a problem with "racist rants" and "hate speech"!
Where are the guide lines? Who is the moderator on the subject? Why are the words "hypocrisy" and "double standard" comes to mind?

762shooter
07-19-2017, 11:02 PM
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IJ22
07-20-2017, 09:07 AM
Amazing that anyone would listen to Ezra Levant or read anything he has written given that:

1. He is a failed lawyer; practiced briefly and resigned from the Law Society of Alberta with outstanding conduct complaints against him
2. He is a failed businessman; his magazine never became profitable so he shut it down
3. He is a failed columnist; both the Calgary Sun and National Post dropped him
4. He has been successfully sued for defamation at least 4 times (Ghitter, Vigna, Awan, Warman) and the threatened suit by George Soros was only avoided by a retraction and public apology
5. He has been found to have violated the Canadian Broadcasting Standards Council code of ethics multiple times
6. He worked as a lobbyist for the tobacco industry

All that is washed away by the fact that he's a straight shooter speaking the truth. Something you really don't find anywhere else in Canada easily. Besides that, I would put some asterisks on some of those points. Just off the top of my head I don't know if he's a failed lawyer or just chose journalism instead. His magazine was assailed for speaking the truth (published Mo cartoons which pretty much sidetracked him having to defend himself). He was sued successfully basically for blasphemy, certainly not something I would hold against him but rather rally behind him for. And Warman, need I say more?

Zinilin
07-20-2017, 11:10 AM
Notice how BCGUY12 changed the thread form being about a message to being about the messenger.

Culturally Marxist Enviro-Socialism personified.

RangeBob
07-20-2017, 02:29 PM
to being about the messenger.

While "Ad Hominim" is certainly on the Logical Fallacy Chart of invalid ways of thinking and speaking, except while electioneering according to Saul Alinsky rules,
I avoid
- Ezra Levant,
- Alex Jones, and
- probably a few others

Unless
a) someone says they made a really good point and describes the point, or
b) their expression is moderated/tempered/checked by someone with both a critical mind and experience in the topic at hand.

In the case of the video at the start of this thread, based on other videos by Stefan Molyneux whom I think he is wrong in those other videos on a couple of topics although he can argue them usually Very Well, I nonetheless & thus thought Stefan would temper Ezra's more unfounded accusations, and he did once in the original post video.

In that sense although Ezra raised all the interesting points in that video, it was Stefan Molyneux's presence that was the click bait for me to get over the 70 minute duration question: "Do I really want to have this droning on for 70 minutes? When there's a perfectly good 1965 Flintstone's cartoon on instead?"

Once upon a time I'd click upon anything Faith Goldie did. These days I avoid her stuff too, unless someone says she's got a good point, which she hasn't really had in six months -- of course I don't really know the 'six months' because I haven't been clicking ...

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/system/App/Settings/poster_image_highs/000/000/001/original/FallaciesPosterHigherRes.jpg
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Billythreefeathers
07-20-2017, 05:22 PM
Amazing that anyone would listen to Ezra Levant or read anything he has written given that:

1. He is a failed lawyer; practiced briefly and resigned from the Law Society of Alberta with outstanding conduct complaints against him


he resigned from the LS of A because of repeat allegations from the same person, he won all the cases, but as he describers it, it was punishment through process, he had to leave whatever he was doing and appear before the Law Society to prove that the complains were false,, it cost the complainant NOTHING to file a complain against him,, it cost Esra time and money, so he reassigned from the LS of Alberta so as not to face repeated harassment

killer kane
07-20-2017, 07:53 PM
As much as Ezra gets under peoples skin.....Oh wait a minute. That's his job. All that being said, I kinda wish he'd have a once a week round up show, his thoughts etc.

speedloader
07-20-2017, 08:15 PM
^^^^^^^yup just to recap the stupid which are usually facts hes good at it
Liberals wouldn't hate him if he wasn't

Swampdonkey
07-20-2017, 10:54 PM
As much as Ezra gets under peoples skin.....Oh wait a minute. That's his job. All that being said, I kinda wish he'd have a once a week round up show, his thoughts etc.

Buy a Rebel membership.

TJSpeller
07-21-2017, 01:48 AM
Ezra Levant goes where no other media personality (I hesitate to say journalist) is willing to go. Because of the way he presents things, overly aggressive and prone to hyperbole, he discredits himself sometimes. This is a shame, because I have found him to routinely bring out useful information that the real media refuses to talk about. He is also a physically brave man, not afraid to throw himself into situations where supposedly real journalists would not dare to go. His work on the "idle no more" people, the occupests, David Suzuki, what's going on with the refugee intake into Canada, and especially on the issue of free speech, has had impact in Canada and beyond.

And he created Rebel Media more or less out of nothing.

I've met him, spoken to him, had several email exchanges with him. I think he is brilliant, and a great Canadian. He is permanently at war with the media establishment, and I admire that because I think the establishment is corrupt and no longer has the interests of the general citizenry at heart. And it's not easy to fight them. His voice it tiny compared to entities like the CBC, Toronto Star, the TV networks, etc.

I wish he would tone it down a bit so people would listen a bit more to what he has to say, but I guess that over-the-top presentation is part of the package. You can't have one without the other.

Go Ezra!

killer kane
07-21-2017, 07:22 AM
Buy a Rebel membership.

We've been since the start.

joe6167
07-21-2017, 09:49 AM
That bit about teaming up with Soros to fight a propaganda war would explain a lot. Went to see the new Spider man movie the other day, and was blasted with Muslim propaganda (from the Province of Ontario) while waiting for the trailers to kick in. As an added bonus, there is a poster in the subway station near me that reads, "What do you call a Muslim woman? A Pilot. Fight racism." Our social engineers are working overtime to brainwash us.

speedloader
07-21-2017, 11:06 AM
Eza reports the facts that the lefty media hides from us or conveniently ignores
he is doing a good service to this country he has never had a fair chance
because he won't play politically correct for nobody
Facts are very damaging to the liars & thieves therefore he will never get
a cbc deal. I don't know about anyone else but I'd rather have honesty in journalism
instead of only hearing what the goverment thinks I should

like this report by Brian for example

https://youtu.be/RualkLUu-oA

SeirX
07-21-2017, 11:25 AM
Geez.. who knows, maybe with a bit more polish shined on him, Ezra could be a future-soon Prime Minister... he's not as pugnacious as Trump, but still won't endure fools for very long, from the looks of it.