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Billythreefeathers
07-21-2017, 02:04 PM
In historic 1st, transgender inmate wins transfer to women's prison

Fallon Aubee says she has endured taunts, threats and physical abuse in penitentiary for men

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fallon-aubee-transgender-inmate-1.4215594

Canada's federal prison service has approved the first transfer of a transgender inmate to an institution based on gender identity rather than physical anatomy, CBC News has learned.

Fallon Aubee, who has been serving a life sentence at B.C.'s Mission Institution, told CBC her request to move to a women's prison has been approved, and that she will be transferred to Fraser Valley Institution for Women on Tuesday.

Aubee called it a "profound decision," but said the journey to this day has been an emotional roller-coaster.

She says the move will allow her to focus more on her future and less on the problems of living as a woman in a men's institution. But she concedes the path ahead will bring its own challenges.

"I think it's going to be a huge adjustment going to the prison for women, not just for me but for the women who are there as well because I am pre-op so there's a stigma that's attached to 'there's a guy living here,'" she said in a telephone interview with CBC News. "I want to be able to defuse that with my character, my attitude, my generosity, so they say, 'Wait a minute, she's just one of the girls.'"


CSC flip-flops on transgender placement policy
Aubee said it feels "incredibly huge" to be a trailblazer, and wants to help other trans inmates who hope to go down the same path.

"Despite all the stigma, the discrimination, the harassment, the abuse, the sexual abuse, I believe it was a worthwhile journey because I can stand tall and proud today and say, I'm a woman and I'm going to be recognized as a woman and I'm going to live in a woman's prison," she said.

Trudeau prompts policy about-face

A new accommodation policy was prompted by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau earlier this year.

Canada's prison service abruptly reversed course and adopted an interim policy for transgender inmates in January, just one day after Trudeau promised to promote equality for all transgender Canadians, including those behind bars.

He was asked about it at a town hall meeting in Kingston, Ont., and made the off-the-cuff pledge to address what advocates see as a human rights issue.


Correctional Service Canada changed course and said it would consider transfers and other accommodations on a case-by-case basis, replacing the strict, long-standing rule that based placement on genitalia rather than gender identity and considered transfers only after sex reassignment surgery.

Human rights policy review

CSC also launched a broader review of all its transgender policies to ensure they comply with new laws to protect the human rights of transgender Canadians.

Spokesperson Lori Halfper said that consultations are ongoing to update policy to ensure offenders and staff members are treated according to their "self-identified gender or gender expression, regardless of their physical anatomy or the gender noted on their identification documents."

Halfper said decisions around timing of the transfer, cell assignment and interactions with other inmates will be made to ensure they are appropriate and safe for the transferred inmate.

"Our staff will receive training, resources and updates to policies so they are properly informed and prepared to implement changes resulting from this legislation," she said. "With the updated policies we expect that, unless there are irresolvable health or safety concerns, an offender may be placed in a penitentiary that matches their gender identity."

Treated like 'junkyard dog'

Aubee was convicted of first-degree murder in 2003 in a street-gang contract killing case.

When first in brought into custody at the federal prison in Prince Albert, Sask., Aubee said she was held in segregation for six months after advising officials she was transgender, in conditions that made her feel like a "junkyard dog."

Since then, it has been an uphill battle for single-cell privacy and other basics like women's clothing and toiletries.

She said she faced discrimination by other inmates and staff who were not properly trained on the needs of transgender people.

Aubee carved out a niche working as a prisoners' legal rights advocate, helping on parole bids and fighting for better quality prison food. The role afforded her some protection from peers, because she provided a valued service.

Canadians support transgender rights
Last year, Ontario became the first jurisdiction in Canada to allow inmates to serve their sentences in institutions based on self-identified gender, and to be referred to by their chosen names and preferred pronouns.

At the time the provincial government called it "the most progressive policy on the treatment of trans inmates in North America."

It's not known how many offenders are placed in Ontario jails based on gender identity.

British Columbia was the second province to permit placement according to gender identity.

Billythreefeathers
07-21-2017, 02:04 PM
so he thinks he's a girl, but has a penice, the other boys are making fun of him and passing him/her around

what happens when the other ladies he's sharing a cell with decide it party night and pass him around?

SpenceyHR
07-21-2017, 02:10 PM
He didn't like men's prison because everyone there is mean, now he wants to go to a place filled with women so catty that they can't be in regular society.... ok. Have fun and make lots of new friends princess.

Joshua13
07-21-2017, 02:19 PM
So going to jail for murder...guys are gonna stick thing up my bum..very bad...oh I know I'll tell em I'm trans and then I'll get sent to a women's only prison...I'll be the only person with prick in an institution full of bad girls... suddenly prison isn't so bad.

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Strewth
07-21-2017, 02:41 PM
....

tigrr
07-21-2017, 03:27 PM
I hope this turns out bad for the liberals. Though if it does, they will just quash the story.

M1917 Enfield
07-21-2017, 03:36 PM
Old news, already happen 2 years ago in BC -

https://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/transgender.jpg?quality=70&strip=all&w=720&h=480&crop=1

http://globalnews.ca/news/2319957/in-a-bc-first-transgender-prisoner-moved-from-male-to-female-prison/


He/she may look quite attractive to someone I guess, but to whom I not quite sure! -

https://i.cbc.ca/1.4081426.1492882264!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_300/fallon-aubee.jpg


These ones are a big hit is a crowded US prison -


http://theredelephants.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/10255453.0.jpg

triq
07-21-2017, 04:06 PM
I said it would happen.

JustBen
07-21-2017, 05:41 PM
WTF.

ilikemoose
07-21-2017, 05:45 PM
This will not end well.

soulchaser
07-21-2017, 06:31 PM
As long as you still have your d--k, you stay in male prison.

Get your lop-it-off-o-me surgery, then your transfer to women's prison will be considered.

Mobusten
07-21-2017, 06:58 PM
The CBC comments, when I checked a few hours ago, were shredding this decision.

Swampdonkey
07-21-2017, 08:52 PM
This will not end well.

This could end excellently. A female prisoner needs to complain to the HRC that the reidentified inmate is in fact male, and causing her mental harm. If the SCC agrees, then suddenly biological men can't so easily reidentify as women, with all the perks, nor can women reidentify as men. The new gender identity LGBT movement could unravel because of this!

Or nothing could change. Either way, it shouldn't make Canada worse.

Gaidheal
07-22-2017, 05:08 AM
Wait until some biological woman who has identified as male in prison now gets transferred to the boys.

That would not end well.

But the law is the law and if it goes one way it has to go the other.

Maybe people could start to petition that this be applied very broadly and force the transfer of all identifiers?

I'd be ok if the Libs wore that.

LB303
07-22-2017, 07:41 AM
LIke the firearms act, the grits can only wear it for a while. Then when the government changes, the new party in power gets to wear it.
As we have seen with the FA, once in place, the law can be difficult to get changed.

Perhaps the solution is solitary confinement? The accommodations are surely within the purview of the wardens. The knowledge that a locked-down existence may be awaiting the pre-op patient could discourage frivolous use of this process.

As for feeling incredibly huge, here's hoping you're not standing tall and proud for much longer, sweetheart.

Joshua13
07-22-2017, 09:05 AM
LIke the firearms act, the grits can only wear it for a while. Then when the government changes, the new party in power gets to wear it.
As we have seen with the FA, once in place, the law can be difficult to get changed.

Perhaps the solution is solitary confinement? The accommodations are surely within the purview of the wardens. The knowledge that a locked-down existence may be awaiting the pre-op patient could discourage frivolous use of this process.

As for feeling incredibly huge, here's hoping you're not standing tall and proud for much longer, sweetheart.Didn't you hear they are pushing to get rid of solitary..i think right now they are fighting for a maximum of 15 days. They say it violates human rights, and since the last prisoner that had his rights violated ended up with $10.5 mil. We should really try to make their lives more enjoyable while they are in prison.

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Swampdonkey
07-22-2017, 09:09 AM
Didn't you hear they are pushing to get rid of solitary..i think right now they are fighting for a maximum of 15 days. They say it violates human rights, and since the last prisoner that had his rights violated ended up with $10.5 mil. We should really try to make their lives more enjoyable while they are in prison.

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Are you saying my solo hunts are violating my human rights? Does that make me insane?

Joshua13
07-22-2017, 09:12 AM
Are you saying my solo hunts are violating my human rights? Does that make me insane?OMG! You murder helpless animals and eat their flesh?? Your not only insane but your a barbaric monster! Mother Earth will have her revenge.

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Swampdonkey
07-22-2017, 09:19 AM
OMG! You murder helpless animals and eat their flesh?? Your not only insane but your a barbaric monster! Mother Earth will have her revenge.

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That's exactly why my vacations are solo, to get away from everyone. They're great for my mental health.

Mark-II
07-22-2017, 09:53 AM
Just wait until the first serial rapist decides that's he's a woman

Not that I care. I just love seeing how deep these tards go down the rabbit hole.

Marcel
07-22-2017, 12:43 PM
"He" cannot ever be "She" and "She" cannot ever be "He" no matter what they mutilate or what hormones they take.

They can "identify" as a lump of coal, that doesn't make them one.

This crap is beyond ridiculous.