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soulchaser
08-15-2017, 10:23 PM
https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/andrew-scheers-inclusive-appeal-shouldnt-leave-room-for-alt-right/article35996385/?ref=http://www.theglobeandmail.com&


John Ibbitson
3 hours ago

The first Conservative Leader whom Marjory LeBreton worked for was John Diefenbaker. She was leader of the government in the Senate under Stephen Harper, before being sidelined by the Senate expenses scandal. She is well known in the party as a Red Tory: supportive of small government, but progressive on social issues. And she is worried about her party.

"My fear is that Canadians … will be influenced by the excessive partisanship and deep divide we are witnessing in U.S. politics and come to the conclusion that Canadian Conservatives are the same," she wrote me Tuesday.

In the wake of last weekend's violence in Charlottesville, Va., Conservatives "must step up to define ourselves right now as to who we are and what we stand for and more importantly what we stand against and what we will not tolerate," the retired senator said. "… Getting caught up in the politics of conservatives south of the border will do irreparable harm to our good and decent party."

On Sunday, Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer (whom Ms. LeBreton did not support during the leadership campaign) also condemned "these acts of racism, violence and hatred."

But a strain of populist, anti-immigrant nativism runs through the Conservative Party, which previous leaders have at times suppressed, and at times exploited.

Charlottesville confronts Canadian Conservatives with a choice: to play footsy with intolerants, or to expel them from the party and the movement. Which will Mr. Scheer choose? One clue will be how he responds to the growing furor in this country over Rebel Media.

In June, Statistics Canada reported that almost half of all hate crimes in 2015 were based on racial or ethnic animus. In January, a shooter with extreme right-wing views allegedly killed six people at a mosque in Quebec City.

Small groups of extreme right-wing protesters have held rallies in various cities, with another planned for Vancouver on Saturday. Counterprotesters also plan to be there.

Mr. Scheer, who declined to be interviewed for this piece, maintains that he wants the Conservative Party of Canada to be open to all.

"We are a very inclusive party," he told the Toronto edition of Metro in June. "We send a very positive message. We stand up for the rights of all different kinds of people all around the world."

But the party he leads contains conflicting impulses. At its best, the Conservative Party under Mr. Harper could rightly claim to be the only conservative party in the developed world that had strong support from immigrant voters.

But in the 2015 election campaign, Mr. Harper and his party attacked the niqab worn by some Muslim women, and assailed "barbaric cultural practices." The leadership campaigns of social conservatives such as Kellie Leitch, Brad Trost and others appeared to reveal that about one Conservative Party member in seven is more Trumpesque than Harperesque (pre-2015) in outlook.

And Mr. Scheer has his own populist streak, such as his campaign pledge to cut funding to universities that don't protect the right of free speech on campuses.

Many Canadian Trump supporters are avid watchers of Rebel Media, an online platform that commentator Ezra Levant established after the conservative news channel Sun News went off the air.

The Rebel is strongly pro-Trump and anti-immigrant, especially Muslim immigrants. Its commentators have indulged in anti-Semitic screeds. It has interviewed American white-supremacist leader Richard Spencer.

But the violence at Charlottesville shocked even Mr. Levant, who issued a memo to staff Monday saying Rebel Media does not support the alt-right, the umbrella term for white supremacists, fascists and other racists who demonstrated in Charlottesville.

"That term now effectively means racism, anti-Semitism and tolerance of neo-Nazism," he wrote. "… We believe that character and ideas and actions are more important than skin colour, or for that matter sex or sexual orientation."

This was not enough to keep Brian Lilley, one of Rebel Media's most prominent commentators, and freelance contributor Barbara Kay from quitting.

"I am not comfortable being associated with a group that, rightly or wrongly, is being increasingly viewed as associated with the likes of Richard Spencer," Mr. Lilley said on Facebook. "… I am also not comfortable with the increasingly harsh tone taken on issues like immigration, or Islam."

Other voices agree. Conservative MP Michael Chong declared he would never appear on the Rebel. Doug Schweitzer, a candidate for the leadership of the new United Conservative Party in Alberta, also announced he would boycott the site.

"Conservative politicians should no longer be participating in a platform that allows for the facilitation of hate," he told the CBC. Brian Jean and Jason Kenney, the front-running candidates for the leadership, had not at press time joined the boycott.

Mr. Scheer has appeared on the Rebel in the past, and his campaign manager is a director of the company, though the platform is no fan of his leadership. Mr. Levant called him a "backstabber" for supporting the Paris climate accord.

Mr. Scheer probably can't, and shouldn't, order his MPs not to appear on Rebel TV, though he might want to consider keeping off it himself.

Far more important is persuading all Canadians – including immigrant Canadians and Muslim Canadians both newly arrived and native born – that his party embraces them, shares their values and that he will not countenance voices of exclusion or resentment within his caucus or the conservative movement.

He will have to say that very loudly, and act with conviction, if he is to prevent what Ms. LeBreton fears: the tarring of the Conservative movement in Canada with the American brush of intolerance.

soulchaser
08-15-2017, 10:27 PM
I'm sure Ibbitson wanted to also mention Trudeau's attendance at several mosques with ties to terrorists and radical Islam, but given his limited space ( :rolleyes: ) he probably had to cut it from the article.

Swampdonkey
08-15-2017, 10:47 PM
Conservatives are intolerant. Intolerant of corruption, incompetence, deceit. Conservatives believe that many things are wrong and should not be tolerated. We're not hippies or bohemians or socialists. We want to conserve the inherently good aspects of Canada.

Mark-II
08-15-2017, 10:50 PM
The "far right" is just the third player in this puppet show.

You have to have some "real" nazis for the other puppet to fight. They've been gassing over a shadow for far too long to keep up the facade without having a tangible enemy, and voila! One appears on cue.

And the corrupted press as the trickster to spin the narrative


No hard questions about who the organizers are and where the money comes from. That should be the first thing on everyone's mind rather than being goaded into reacting to a stage show.

killer kane
08-15-2017, 10:53 PM
CHONG? SCHWEITZER? Are you kidding me? Of course these two closet liebs wouldn't appear on the Rebel, they're waiting for the ass kissing from the commie broadcaster. Then this left wing piece of $h!t goes on to soft sell female genital mutilation. I sincerely hope this isn't going where I know it is.

Rory McCanuck
08-15-2017, 11:26 PM
The Rebel is strongly pro-Trump and anti-immigrant, especially Muslim immigrants. Its commentators have indulged in anti-Semitic screeds.
Really?
Gavin's 10 things I hate about Jews counts as an 'anti-semitic screed'?
It's amusing if you look at it in the frame of mind it was intended, but even if you don't, there's nothing in it that's actually offensive.

Waterloomike
08-16-2017, 01:19 AM
I don't like the former senator very much.

firemachine69
08-16-2017, 03:55 AM
This is exactly the kind of stuff that Levant should go after for libel.

Doug_M
08-16-2017, 05:29 AM
Really?
Gavin's 10 things I hate about Jews counts as an 'anti-semitic screed'?
It's amusing if you look at it in the frame of mind it was intended, but even if you don't, there's nothing in it that's actually offensive.

It's all lies an spin. Reminds me of the demonization of Steve Bannon as a suppose alt-right supporter. They like to quote something he said to Mother Jones (barf) a long time ago. But back then "alt-right" did not mean what it does today. Back then alt-right were essentially anti-establishment conservative leaning youth. But the media tried to demonize them as "white nationalists" in order to smear Trump (leading up to the election) and so the actual white nationalists ran with it.

This is how those who only get their "news" from one side of the spectrum are doomed to ignorance and easily led.

Zinilin
08-16-2017, 09:27 AM
Scheer should make a statement that:

The Conservative Party of Canada rejects the ideology, teachings and methods of National Socialist German Workers' (NAZI) Party.

killer kane
08-16-2017, 09:34 AM
Scheer should make a statement that:

The Conservative Party of Canada rejects the ideology, teachings and methods of National Socialist German Workers' (NAZI) Party.

Unlike the msm, the lieberal party, the ndp, the green party.........

ilikemoose
08-16-2017, 01:58 PM
If you guys are familiar with the famous Lyndon Johnson anecdote ( which I will not post out of respect for the sites terms of service) its perfectly suited to what is happening here.

Scheer does not have to deny, repudiate or otherwise denounce a secret Nazi influence in the CPC, because there is no secret Nazi influence in the CPC, and to even deny or repudiate such an influence gives credence to the accusation.

Zinilin
08-16-2017, 02:02 PM
If you guys are familiar with the famous Lyndon Johnson anecdote ( which I will not post out of respect for the sites terms of service) its perfectly suited to what is happening here.

Scheer does not have to deny, repudiate or otherwise denounce a secret Nazi influence in the CPC, because there is no secret Nazi influence in the CPC, and to even deny or repudiate such an influence gives credence to the accusation.

It would be interesting to see National Socialist German Workers' (NAZI) Party in a CBC headline.

shortandlong
08-16-2017, 02:06 PM
Scheer should make a statement that:

The Conservative Party of Canada rejects the ideology, teachings and methods of National Socialist German Workers' (NAZI) Party.

......or any other SOCIALIST teachings

FallisCowboy
08-16-2017, 03:26 PM
The problem is that the "progressive" left considers everyone right of their personal viewpoint to be a Nazis, racist, extremist, or any of a whole list of labels they like to use to prevent any healthy discussion or honest dialog that would challenge their fantasy view of the world. Reality is that the majority of the population is somewhere right of them on the political spectrum.

Forbes/Hutton
08-16-2017, 05:16 PM
Unlike the msm, the lieberal party, the ndp, the green party.........

The current Prime Moron's father...

Forbes/Hutton
08-16-2017, 05:27 PM
The problem is that the "progressive" left considers everyone right of their personal viewpoint to be a Nazis, racist, extremist, or any of a whole list of labels they like to use to prevent any healthy discussion or honest dialog that would challenge their fantasy view of the world. Reality is that the majority of the population is somewhere right of them on the political spectrum.

They throw around "nazi" as an insult without even really understanding what it means, just like boys in the schoolyard calling each other gay. It would take them 2 minutes to find out that the nazis were socialists and therefore on the left, but they have no need to educate themselves when they already know everything. The really sad part is how ignorant (and perhaps illiterate) the so called neo-nazis are. Other than the racial hate, how much do they have in common with the nazi ideology? Do you think the nazi flag waver supports socialism? A strong (all powerful) federalist government? Government restrictions on "rights" like gun ownership, freedom of speech, freedom of movement, freedom of assembly? Not to mention most of the neo-nazis seem to have eastern European surnames, based on which in occupied Europe would have gotten them some time as a slave labourer and worse if they started mouthing off about "their rights". The so-called neo-nazis aren't just to be denounced but also pitied for their lack of intelligence and knowledge.

RangeBob
08-16-2017, 06:02 PM
The Nazis opposed all traditional socialism, wanting to substitute something they called ‘German socialism’ or ‘Aryan socialism.’ This meant citizenship and privileges only for ‘Aryans’ (meaning non-Jews), concentration camps for others."
-- Barbara Miller Lane, a Bryn Mawr College professor and co-editor of a compilation of Nazi ideology before 1933
hxxp://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2015/oct/16/jason-villalba/jason-villalba-said-bernie-sanders-democratic-soci/


[there's a lot more detail offered at this hotlink below]
What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners.
...
This was the socialism instituted by the Nazis. And Mises calls it socialism on the German or Nazi pattern, in contrast to the more obvious socialism of the Soviets, which he calls socialism on the Russian or Bolshevik pattern.
-- commenting on the work by Ludwig von Mises , at https://mises.org/library/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarian

Danimal85
08-16-2017, 09:08 PM
...and assailed "barbaric cultural practices."

Since when is being against honor killings and the mutilation of women a bad thing?

Coke
08-17-2017, 10:00 PM
Since when is being against honor killings and the mutilation of women a bad thing?

Cuz it's 2017... Justin said so...