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MetisWolf
02-25-2018, 02:45 PM
So i am trying to find Black Badge courses in Ontario, so far no luck. Seems most sites like IPSC Canada and Ontario are pretty unhelpful.

It's hard to find any information on them about courses in Ontario.
Can someone point me in the right direction on this?

LB303
02-25-2018, 03:01 PM
Courses are only held sporadically, it is a challenge. Ask around at your club, or local gun shop. Someone will know someone who knows something. Good luck.

TJSpeller
02-25-2018, 03:10 PM
Try contacting IPSCAlex. He teaches the courses sometimes, and undoubtedly knows someone who does as well.

https://ipscalex.com/pages/contact-us

The IPSC Ontario site has a page for upcoming black badge course, though it shows none now.
https://www.ipsc-ont.org/bbcourse.htm

You can probably find some contacts to ask further questions there.

GR0M
02-25-2018, 06:08 PM
Lower Trent Valley Fish and Game Club is hosting one mid March (Trenton Area) PM me for contact details

3MTA3
02-25-2018, 07:00 PM
Bancroft Fish and Game is runninga couple this year- check their calendar-
http://bancroftfishandgame.com/
phone the president for info

willysman
02-25-2018, 08:29 PM
I am hoping to have one late this spring in the Ottawa Valley at one of the clubs there. Eganville also usually runs one or two a year as well.

Justice
02-28-2018, 01:45 PM
Where you are in Ontario matters.
And there's this. That may or may not be covered by your normal club membership.
"The first requirement of course is that you are a member of IPSC Ontario..."
And this.
"Please make certain that you have all of the equipment required..."
Plus a certain level of shooting skill.
Isn't exactly unusual for what would be considered a 'summer' thing to not be posted on 28 Feb.

IJ22
02-28-2018, 06:45 PM
"The first requirement of course is that you are a member of IPSC Ontario..."
And this.
"Please make certain that you have all of the equipment required..."


In Ontario you join IPSC when you take the BB course, the membership is rolled into the fee. The primary focus is safety, if you're not a jerk and can follow basic range safety rules you will be ok. A certain amount of shooting proficiency is required but don't sweat it, it's not that rigorous. One of the self tests I read about last year was being able to hit a 30x30 inch target (I think that's what it was) at 20 yards 9 times out of ten at your own speed. That actually turned out to be more challenging than anything I encountered in the course, so if you can even come close to that you can breathe easy.

You do need the equipment, but you don't need the fancy stuff.

MetisWolf
03-01-2018, 12:18 AM
In Ontario you join IPSC when you take the BB course, the membership is rolled into the fee. The primary focus is safety, if you're not a jerk and can follow basic range safety rules you will be ok. A certain amount of shooting proficiency is required but don't sweat it, it's not that rigorous. One of the self tests I read about last year was being able to hit a 30x30 inch target (I think that's what it was) at 20 yards 9 times out of ten at your own speed. That actually turned out to be more challenging than anything I encountered in the course, so if you can even come close to that you can breathe easy.

You do need the equipment, but you don't need the fancy stuff.

I am signed up for one in May. I can hit an 81/2" x 11" paper at 15 metres, but only 7/10 so far..so got some practice ahead of me:)

IJ22
03-01-2018, 07:42 AM
I am signed up for one in May. I can hit an 81/2" x 11" paper at 15 metres, but only 7/10 so far..so got some practice ahead of me:)

One thing about starting out in IPSC is it made me realize how much practice is required to do well. I haven't been putting in the time so I suck. It's still a lot of fun competing in matches though, you will enjoy it. Somewhere out there is a BB manual in PDF that has the drills in it. I haven't been able to find it again but I'll post a link if I do. For some reason I think I recall it being from the Alberta web side, but there wasn't a public link to it, I had to backdoor it with google.

Grimlock
03-01-2018, 03:37 PM
One thing about starting out in IPSC is it made me realize how much practice is required to do well. I haven't been putting in the time so I suck.

And there isn't anything like a linear relationship between practice and skill. A lot of us have to suck to make the keeners look good.

Radix
01-07-2019, 11:29 PM
Hi just bumping this to see if anyone has new info?

I tried the same websites, they actually took the course schedule link down. I also emailed the course organizer multiple times last few months with no response...

Radix
01-07-2019, 11:59 PM
Also called them and tried contacting this contact multiple times...

A bit depressing...

Black Badge Coordinator/Membership Director
John Evers
I.P.S.C. Ontario
7030 Woodbine Avenue
Suit3 500
Markham, Ontario
L3R 6G2

1ABNDT
03-23-2019, 09:20 AM
Good day, GOC. Your first move should be to join a gun club that host's IDPA/IPSC practice nights
Example, ( Target Sports Canada ). Second you need to show you've shot 1000 rds plus on the handgun you plan to use. Third you need to hit a piece of paper 9 out of 10 shots. And I believe the size is 30x30 cm, not inches. Until then don't even bother, I've contacted IPSC via email just last week
" as stated on website as the only way to contact " and exchanged email conversation with Mr.Evers, promptly returned my email very accommodating and professional manner.

TJSpeller
03-23-2019, 10:48 AM
Just to correct some information above:

1) Target Sports (actually called Calibre Gun Club) has never offered Black Badge Courses to my knowledge. They run an IPSC night on Tuesdays, IDPA on Wednesdays. On the IPSC night which I sometimes attend, it's very busy, and I doubt you would be able to participate. Also, those are not real matches, but practice sessions. As far as I know, Calibre Gun Club has never run a real match or offered a BB course.

2) I don't believe there are any requirements such as 1000 rnds though your gun. How would you ever prove that? I also never ran into the 30x30 10/10 thing either when I did my BB nearly a decade ago. I suppose that could have changed, but I doubt it.

I definitely agree that a newb to shooting, with a recently purchased gun, will not pass the BB course, either in terms of safety or in terms of minimum required skill.

However, most of all, it is important to know that action shooting is the most fun you can have with a gun, and it's worth the effort to have sufficient skill, and spend the necessary time, to be able to enjoy this during your free time. At least for as long as Justin Trudeau lets you.


Right now, on the IPSC Ontario calendar I see a BB course ongoing in Wentworth currently, in Algoma for May 4,5, and in Frankford May 13,14, but I know that sometimes those courses get cancelled (? because of lack of participants?)

1ABNDT
03-24-2019, 07:51 AM
Pardon the mistake, qualifiying matches are not held at TSC. They are held in places like, Sharon Ont, Waterloo, Valcartier, Crumlin, etc. 9 out 10 on paper at 20 yds.

The Black Badge Program is not designed to teach people "how to shoot", but to teach novice shooters how to be safe with a firearm under different circumstances such as under time restraints, the use of a holster, or while moving and carrying a gun in the hand. It is extremely useful if the individual taking the course has had some formal training in the use of a handgun by way of a club level handgun safety course. There is a prerequisite that the student be capable of hitting a 30 cm x 30 cm target 9 times out of 10 on their own time at 20m using both hands. It is also recommended that they have fired at least 1000 rounds through the firearm they are using for the course.

https://www.ipsc-ont.org/wordpress/?page_id=410. Look under policies and procedures.

IJ22
03-25-2019, 12:08 PM
2) I don't believe there are any requirements such as 1000 rnds though your gun. How would you ever prove that? I also never ran into the 30x30 10/10 thing either when I did my BB nearly a decade ago. I suppose that could have changed, but I doubt it.


I've seen those "requirements" listed on the web sites of a few IPSC sections. I believe you are correct in that they are not a specific requirement but a guideline that a prospective joiner can use to evaluate their readiness. I did the BB in 2017 and there was no 10x10 etc. but I think they may have asked on the application form whether you can do it and how many rounds you've fired from the gun you plan to use at the course. It was strictly honour system, but there were accuracy drills that you had to accomplish. Just a bunch of different stages, 6 shots in the A-zone within 20 seconds, 2 shots into 3 targets within 10 seconds etc. etc.

RobertMcC
03-25-2019, 12:26 PM
2) I don't believe there are any requirements such as 1000 rnds though your gun. How would you ever prove that? I also never ran into the 30x30 10/10 thing either when I did my BB nearly a decade ago. I suppose that could have changed, but I doubt it.


Because I don't remember doing the 30x30 test, back when I did my BB in the early 2000s. As for the 1000 rds. Yeah right ! I borrow my fathers Glock 17C and didn't have many rounds thru it. Maybe 200.. I still passed. Now when I looked at a newsletter, talking about running a new IPSC BB course. It talked about hitting 8x11 10/10 at 20M.

Which shocked me, because I know many people that couldn't hit the brod side of a barn at 20m. Yet completed their BB.

Scouse
07-18-2019, 04:25 AM
The cheap practice? Dry fire at home, in the basement (We call basements swimming pools in Florida!) dry fire is just that, no ammo around anywhere. A sheet of paper on the wall, a solid wall. Draw, punch your Glock 17, at the paper, focus on the front sight, PRESS! trigger. You are trying to eliminate any kind of snap or jerk of the trigger that will throw the round off where you aimed. This a quite way to gain skill, cheap as well.

Modifications? Sights, Glock plastic sights, suck! Go to steel night sights. Line up 3 green dots, press. It is a great sport, IPSC or IDPA. Enjoy.