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jwirecom109
12-04-2012, 07:55 PM
So I've been slowly upgrading my Model 70 Winchester in a 300 Win Mag.

Recently I ordered a stock from Richard's stocks

To say the least i'm not totally impressed, besides the slow from order to ship issue i had the stock is rougher then I expected and I run into one HUGE problem for use of my rifle

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So I have heard of this happening with Richard's stocks of course after i found out about the problem.

So I have a couple ideas on how to fix it but some member input is always nice.

First is to shave down it so the bolt clears the rest, which of course is the easiest to do.

Next option i was thinking is abit more work and I'm not 100% sold on it.
Its to level out the stock in the back, remove the cheek rest from the stock and add either a padded cheek rest or bolted adjustable.
eg
http://www.voodootactical.eu/167-708-large/snipers-padded-belt.jpg


Anyways let me know your thoughts on the subject, I'm torn.

Here is what it looks like as a whole minus the scope.

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Update 4/30/15
Looks like all my old pictures went bye bye from my offsite links, anyways I did a strip down and refinish again.
This time I stained it so its abit darker.
Anyways here is the rifle.

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stevesummit
12-04-2012, 08:18 PM
I would shave it off and go with the adjustable cheek riser then you can adjust as needed

Satain
12-04-2012, 10:05 PM
Got an idea!
Drill 2 wholes in the area on the bottom of the stock almost all the way up to the top of the cheek rest. Cut the top 2 inches in a straight line off o that the bolt will be able to be removed. Then embed the two wholes in the cut off piece with the body part of the bolt that will be long enough to clear the bottom of the stock with some room to spare. Then get the plastic knobs that you like and drill and tap it. Now you got an adjustable cheek pice that goes with the rifle nicely. Sand and steel whool that stock and use the 2 part clear epoxy and call it a day.

jwirecom109
12-04-2012, 10:10 PM
its not that its not removable its a matter of it will not open far enough for me to open the bolt to load and unload the rifle.

Dmay
12-05-2012, 07:01 AM
How much more clearance do you need?

jwirecom109
12-05-2012, 07:28 AM
I'd need to shave down the cheek rest somewhere between 1/3 of an inch to 1/2 an inch i hasn't accurately measured it

Rory McCanuck
12-05-2012, 09:46 AM
It looks like the bolt needs to come back about 2 inches to be removed, so how about a 2" notch?
Just measure out how far back it needs to go to allow bolt removal, and roll the edge down with a rasp.
When its down and back far enough, clean it up with a file then a band of coarse emory cloth.
That way, if you hate it, you can still lower the rest of the cheek rest the 1/2 inch.
If you hate that, then you can start really hacking and chopping and drilling and bolting.....

TBH, seeing how rough it is in the first pic, that stock was meant to be finished more.
Either by someone in the factory, or by the end user.
If it was supposed to be you, I hope the price reflects it?
If not, give them a call and a piece of your mind.

jwirecom109
12-05-2012, 09:52 AM
I have seen the notch done before, like i said with the cheek rest its a common issue.
I am not a fan of the notch myself.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t106/pdog06_photos/DSCN2725.jpg

with the stock being rough, yes it is.
I had expected it abit more done, of course its all in the way you say it on the website.
"99% press-fit finishing will be by the end user"

I read after i bought it that richard's has the worst customer service, and trying to get a refund is like pulling teeth even though its on their website as 100% refund even the cost of shipping.

Doing the extra work will not be and issue, as when it's done, I'll have to change it so much i can honestly claim that its my stock ;)

Rory McCanuck
12-05-2012, 10:05 AM
That's more of a notch, I was thinking of rounding the whole front edge down.
You'd have a bit of a two-step cheek rest.
That notch seems to go quite far back, does your need to go that far?

mlehto
12-05-2012, 10:14 AM
That cheek rest looks incredibly high as it sits.

I would imagine part of the finishing of the stock would be removing a lot of material from that cheek rest to fit the individual, and the scope set up anyways no? It would make sense that it is only made so high in order to give the most room for final custom fitting.

You might find that removing the material is necessary anyways depending on the scope set up.

jwirecom109
12-05-2012, 10:45 AM
6.5-24 x 50 vortex viper, with low rings.

Dmay
12-07-2012, 06:42 AM
Did you mock it up with the scope and rings?....Like mlehto says, you may be removing a bunch of material anyway, might not have to do much extra for a notch......

jwirecom109
12-09-2012, 03:05 PM
Did abit of work on the stock this weekend.

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mlehto
12-09-2012, 05:47 PM
There you go.

Did you mock it up with the scope yet?

stevesummit
12-09-2012, 07:02 PM
Well rifle looks good. But I see that I have to send you a larger bolt face sticker so more people want them and also ask you to place it more central to your work area lol

jwirecom109
12-11-2012, 10:58 AM
There you go.

Did you mock it up with the scope yet?

Yes and I am pretty happy with the placement

jwirecom109
12-11-2012, 10:58 AM
Well rifle looks good. But I see that I have to send you a larger bolt face sticker so more people want them and also ask you to place it more central to your work area lol

Lol

jwirecom109
12-28-2012, 06:37 PM
Well I mocked up everything to give you an Idea of what she looks like finished.

The final looks pretty good, not prefect thats forsure, but I'm not prefect ;)

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Rory McCanuck
12-28-2012, 07:03 PM
OOOhhh looking very nice.

stevesummit
12-29-2012, 12:08 AM
Looks good sir. You will have to bring it up and we can see how well it shoots

DOA
12-29-2012, 12:14 AM
Sweet, nice job!

jwirecom109
03-14-2013, 08:34 PM
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Back from the Gun Smith (over at Calgary Shooting Centre) Ready for the Bench

Rory McCanuck
03-14-2013, 08:42 PM
Gosh, but that looks pretty.
Hopefully it'll shoot ;)

jwirecom109
03-15-2013, 07:08 AM
it'll shoot

Heckler
03-17-2013, 07:11 AM
Did you bed the action or install pillars? some times if you need a milimeter or so of clearance you can get that by pillar bedding. Rifle looks awsome BTW nice choice on color.
I too have had issues every time I have used one of their(Microfit)stocks. There used to be a guy in Sask. that made better blanks then Richards but for the life of me I can't remember his name. Maybe someone here knows who I am thinking of and could chime in

jwirecom109
03-17-2013, 07:17 AM
I had Calgary shooting centre do just that, I am going to try to get out this morning to sight it in then work on my loads for it.

I had looked around but unless i wanted to try and get something very expensive, i wasn`t going to get something I liked (for looks)

took some extra time, but its good to go. Though I wouldn`t do it again with Richard`s stocks

Haywire1
03-17-2013, 08:24 AM
turned out great, good job bud

jwirecom109
05-06-2013, 03:22 PM
Finally got it out to the range, been too busy to get out before now.

So I used Factory Winchester 150 grain soft point super X to sight in.

Used a make shift bench to hold the rifle (which didn't perfectly hold the rifle so their was some movement between shots and re-leveling)

9 total shots including the 3 round grouping shown. Didn't want to shoot too much of the factory since its a sight in and with custom loads its sure to change, but i wanted to update on the shots.

Looking forward to get some custom loads into it.

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Shot 1 of group to Shot 3 of group

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Shot 1 to shot 2

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shot 2 to shot 3

Strewth
05-06-2013, 03:55 PM
Nice! ...and I guess that's one of the last Richard's stocks coming to Canada freely over the border...

jwirecom109
05-06-2013, 04:30 PM
Did they change their policy on shipping?
I got it last year before all the stuff went down.

Honestly if i had to do it all over again I wouldn't go with Richards with all the extra work i had to do to it.

I love it now, its not prefect but it suits my needs and I like the look.

stevesummit
05-06-2013, 04:54 PM
Looks good all together and seems to shoot ok. Now we have to get you out shooting it too some distance and get another hook set in for you to spend your money on

Rory McCanuck
05-06-2013, 05:32 PM
That's pretty good shooting for plain-Jane factory ammo.
Did I mention that rifle is a pretty good looker, too? :)

jwirecom109
05-06-2013, 05:46 PM
makes up for the shooter being so ugly ;)

stevesummit
05-06-2013, 06:39 PM
makes up for the shooter being so ugly ;)

Your cute in that homely way. Kinda like a pug

jwirecom109
04-30-2015, 07:23 AM
A couple update photos in Post 1

Bwgunsmith
04-30-2015, 07:57 PM
nice job

jwirecom109
05-31-2015, 04:22 PM
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jwirecom109
05-31-2015, 04:23 PM
A couple changes.
Re-bedded properly stock. Trigger weight trimmed down abit more. Stock was stripped and re stained.
Sub MOA today