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TV-PressPass
01-01-2013, 10:11 PM
Pretty awesome way to ring in the new year I thought:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt9a_QPFd50

Strewth
01-01-2013, 10:54 PM
Y u have?!!!

Was this from Armtac? I'm #...302? *sigh*

Cool vids as always, thanks for posting:)

lone-wolf
01-01-2013, 10:58 PM
I don't believe you and require a magazine for testing.

hint... hint...

BuckingFastard
01-01-2013, 11:19 PM
Wow! email sent to Chris :) tried counting your follow up shots how many did you fit in there?
Btw pretty awesome way to ring in 2013 but it looks pretty bright out for 2400hrs :p

Drache
01-01-2013, 11:36 PM
Wow! email sent to Chris :) tried counting your follow up shots how many did you fit in there?
Btw pretty awesome way to ring in 2013 but it looks pretty bright out for 2400hrs :p

5 rounds were stupid... then I got to use 10 round LAR mags. From there I got to use 30 round mags. Yet now I'm forced back to 10 round LAR mags when I go out to the range or out target shooting. From my understanding the Beowulf will hold 15 or 16 rounds depending on the Beowulf mag. Still not the 30 rounders but these are as close as most will ever get.

BuckingFastard
01-01-2013, 11:44 PM
Ya don't know thought I counted 14 once and 16 another time? Just curious as to what his hold.

Drache
01-02-2013, 12:01 AM
Ya don't know thought I counted 14 once and 16 another time? Just curious as to what his hold.

The Metal Mags will hold 14 or 15 and the Polymer should hold 15 or 16

Garetsu
01-02-2013, 10:59 AM
Nice video!

That's pretty nifty.. I wonder if it'll feed reliably in all firearms, though.

Drache
01-02-2013, 11:23 AM
Nice video!

That's pretty nifty.. I wonder if it'll feed reliably in all firearms, though.

It should, they are the same mags (5.56 and .50 Beowulf). The .50 Beowulf round was designed with an AR upper. Take your standard Bushmaster, take off the upper, slap on the Beowulf upper, and you're good to go.

Neil Burke
01-02-2013, 11:31 AM
5 rounds were stupid... then I got to use 10 round LAR mags. From there I got to use 30 round mags. Yet now I'm forced back to 10 round LAR mags when I go out to the range or out target shooting. From my understanding the Beowulf will hold 15 or 16 rounds depending on the Beowulf mag. Still not the 30 rounders but these are as close as most will ever get.

Now if only we could get someone to design a 50 Beowulf Pistol...

Drache
01-02-2013, 12:36 PM
Now if only we could get someone to design a 50 Beowulf Pistol...

Alexander Arms has already stated that they would not be selling a .50 Beowulf "pistol" nor would the make any mags stamped ".50 Beowulf Pistol". And since Alexander Arms holds the patent and copyright for anything to do with the .50 Beowulf, no one else will be making them either.

Satain
01-02-2013, 01:21 PM
The only down side I see to this post is my ammo stash!
;)
Well done vid :Beer time:

TV-PressPass
01-02-2013, 01:32 PM
The Metal Mags will hold 14 or 15 and the Polymer should hold 15 or 16

Drache has it down pat. I get 14 into my metal one and I can force 16 into the polymer. I've been loading it with 15 though so it will fit nicely in the Tavor with the bolt closed.

I was never a big fan of the LAR mags just because they're so small. These feel so much better for reloading!

Neil Burke
01-02-2013, 06:18 PM
Alexander Arms has already stated that they would not be selling a .50 Beowulf "pistol" nor would the make any mags stamped ".50 Beowulf Pistol". And since Alexander Arms holds the patent and copyright for anything to do with the .50 Beowulf, no one else will be making them either.

Damn. I guess that's that then. I'm guessing the polymer mags won't work in an fs2000 cause of the whole gasket thing... I also suppose you can't use the rangerplates with the metal mags since that removes the 50 beowulf marking..?

Drache
01-02-2013, 06:32 PM
Damn. I guess that's that then. I'm guessing the polymer mags won't work in an fs2000 cause of the whole gasket thing... I also suppose you can't use the rangerplates with the metal mags since that removes the 50 beowulf marking..?

yeah I wouldn't remove the baseplate otherwise it's just a 15 round AR .223 magazine.

TV-PP has the right idea as well having 6 inert .50 Beowulf rounds to prove to an over zealous LEO that the mags were made for .50 Beowulf and that only 5 rounds would fit. Also having the RCMP paperwork on mag capacities for mags of other calibers is also a good idea. At least until this whole new round is more better known.

As for the F2000 I can't see why it wouldn't work. From my understand the F2000 feeds from a standard NATO AR mag. If you can use a LAR mag then you'd be able to use one of these.

Diesel
01-02-2013, 06:40 PM
Glad you guys have found another loophole, As for the FS2000 only standard metal AR mags will work, none of the polymer mags will fit.

Drache
01-02-2013, 06:45 PM
Glad you guys have found another loophole, As for the FS2000 only standard metal AR mags will work, none of the polymer mags will fit.

Then you buy the metal version .50 Beowulf mags :p

Forbes/Hutton
01-02-2013, 07:21 PM
Y u have?!!!

Was this from Armtac? I'm #...302? *sigh*

Cool vids as always, thanks for posting:)

What's #302 translate into in years?:(

Strewth
01-02-2013, 07:35 PM
What's #302 translate into in years?:(

Good question, maybe Armtac could chime in? No pressure, just curious?

(Maybe it translates into tomorrow:))

JustBen
01-02-2013, 07:46 PM
This video makes me want to buy a Tavor.

Neil Burke
01-02-2013, 08:04 PM
On a slight side note, but still somewhat relevant, what's stopping someone from producing base plates with the .50 Beowulf markings in Canada and converting existing magazines? Goes back to the whole, "What it's designed for" issue?

Drache
01-02-2013, 08:21 PM
On a slight side note, but still somewhat relevant, what's stopping someone from producing base plates with the .50 Beowulf markings in Canada and converting existing magazines? Goes back to the whole, "What it's designed for" issue?

Nothing really. And really odds are if you don't sell them, Alexander Arms shouldn't find out and sue you. Granted though that means you need to change the whole rivet deal and as soon as you remove the rivet you are creating a prohibited device and can be charged for that.

TV-PressPass
01-03-2013, 11:44 AM
Also having the RCMP paperwork on mag capacities for mags of other calibers is also a good idea.

I keep it saved on my phone ;)


Granted though that means you need to change the whole rivet deal and as soon as you remove the rivet you are creating a prohibited device and can be charged for that.

Put the second rivet in first? Then drill out the second?

Also: I try hard not to call this a "loop-hole." Its not like we're wriggling around the laws out of sight of authorities. We're using pre-established rules in the legislation that have been explicitly okayed by the RCMP. Nothing loop-hole about it as far as I'm concerned.

Drache
01-03-2013, 12:22 PM
Also: I try hard not to call this a "loop-hole." Its not like we're wriggling around the laws out of sight of authorities. We're using pre-established rules in the legislation that have been explicitly okayed by the RCMP. Nothing loop-hole about it as far as I'm concerned.

Well it was a loop-hole, then someone brought it up to the RCMP who then ok'd the loop-hole.

As long as it doesn't go the way of the CX4/PX4 fiasco we'll be fine.

killer kane
01-03-2013, 10:28 PM
Here Here. armco you say. This is almost as joyous and no where near as expensive as antique packin. Mind you I'm old enough to remember unpinned mags.

loki
01-04-2013, 01:11 AM
Here Here. armco you say. This is almost as joyous and no where near as expensive as antique packin. Mind you I'm old enough to remember unpinned mags.

Not armco, Armtac.

JustBen
01-04-2013, 10:07 AM
After seeing what PMAGS are going for on the CGN EE, these beowolf mags are a steal even at twice the price Armtac is asking.

TV-PressPass
01-04-2013, 05:30 PM
I'm so tempted to list mine for $400 a pop ;)

zulu
01-04-2013, 07:19 PM
Awesome

Garetsu
01-04-2013, 07:51 PM
I'm so tempted to list mine for $400 a pop ;)

I would probably do it :-P Demand is high, take advantage of that!

SmartLikeTruck
01-26-2013, 02:33 AM
I'm so tempted to list mine for $400 a pop ;)
So long as you don't make a running joke of it like the now CGN banned BLAXSUN (sp?)

Drache
01-26-2013, 09:03 AM
So long as you don't make a running joke of it like the now CGN banned BLAXSUN (sp?)

He listed his entire Tavor set up for $14,000. The ad was deleted and he became the laughing stock of CGN for a couple days :D

blaxsun
01-26-2013, 12:11 PM
There are very, very few Loki magazines. Most are in use for the .50 Loki uppers, so the chances of prying those loose are less than zero. The last pair that sold went for $500 ($250/each).


So long as you don't make a running joke of it...

My last offer for PMAGs was for 100lbs of fresh lobster. :D


He listed his entire Tavor set up for $14,000. The ad was deleted and he became the laughing stock of CGN for a couple days :D

Yes, but is that really any less humorous than the $800+ SKS? ;)

TV-PressPass
01-26-2013, 05:13 PM
The ad was deleted and he became the laughing stock of CGN for a couple days

Couple of days?? I'm sad that you think my influence was so short lived!

Even now I see "14k?" in my inbox now and again.

I still would like to know where else they'd look for a CTAR barrel. Pure unobtanium as far as I know. Premium price for IDF gear ;)

The thing that got me was Greentips saying that the EE wasn't for profit. People selling on there weren't supposed to make cash. I guess those .50 Loki mags had a pretty high retail then? :P

Drache
01-26-2013, 05:35 PM
The thing that got me was Greentips saying that the EE wasn't for profit. People selling on there weren't supposed to make cash. I guess those .50 Loki mags had a pretty high retail then? :P

And that's the kicker.

What about all those Pmags that are selling for $50 each plus shipping right now?

riderrick
01-26-2013, 06:10 PM
yeah bought the beowulf now i cant get mags.....piss off

TV-PressPass
01-26-2013, 07:34 PM
Lol that actually sucks a lot riderrick.

I almost wish there was some kind of priority system for people who actually buy .50 Beo uppers to make sure they can get mags for their rifles.

blaxsun
01-27-2013, 12:52 AM
I still would like to know where else they'd look for a CTAR barrel. Pure unobtanium as far as I know. Premium price for IDF gear ;)

I'll give you two guesses, but you'll only need one - and the answer is no. ;)


The thing that got me was Greentips saying that the EE wasn't for profit.

Right... I must've missed the "sell at a loss" clause. Guess the sponsors in the EE are selling for cost as well... :rolleyes:


I almost wish there was some kind of priority system for people who actually buy .50 Beo uppers to make sure they can get mags for their rifles.

There is. Chris kept at least one magazine for each upper. Unless it's a recent batch and AA is having problem supplying magazines.


What about all those Pmags that are selling for $50 each plus shipping right now?

No idea - I sold all mine for around $40-$45/each.

TV-PressPass
01-28-2013, 09:07 AM
No idea - I sold all mine for around $400-$450/each.

Fixed it for you ;)

blaxsun
01-28-2013, 12:20 PM
Fixed it for you ;)

lol. I wish...

jwirecom109
01-28-2013, 12:25 PM
I just want one! :(

blaxsun
01-28-2013, 12:38 PM
I just want one! :(

Loki magazines are kind of overrated. The polymer ones are better, but still don't hold a candle to PMAGs (especially the new PMAG M3s). Everyone says they want just one, but the reality is that people would really prefer to replace all their LAR-15s. :D

jwirecom109
01-28-2013, 12:42 PM
Naw 1 would be good enough.

For the matches i run at the club we do 10 round relays so Pmags and LARs work best.

3 Gun I am sure i'd like em to replace all my mags

blaxsun
01-28-2013, 12:44 PM
Naw 1 would be good enough.

For the matches i run at the club we do 10 round relays so Pmags and LARs work best.

3 Gun I am sure i'd like em to replace all my mags

Fingers crossed that the magazine supply situation eases up then...

jwirecom109
01-28-2013, 12:46 PM
Fingers crossed that the magazine supply situation eases up then...

Lol good thing I'm stocked up for a good personal supply ;)

blaxsun
01-28-2013, 12:48 PM
Lol good thing I'm stocked up for a good personal supply ;)

I'm in the "queue", so sometime over the next year I should receive a bounty of PMAGs. That's the plan, anyway...

TV-PressPass
01-28-2013, 01:09 PM
I figured that 14 AR magazines was enough. But then I look at the Lancer warfighters and think "maybe one or two more"

blaxsun
01-28-2013, 01:11 PM
I figured that 14 AR magazines was enough. But then I look at the Lancer warfighters and think "maybe one or two more"

I might have overdone it at 40 then... oops. ;) The Lancer AWF magazines are really nice. Nothing beats the PMAG M3 when it comes to ease of loading, though. I do like that the Lancers are entirely grey-ish translucent; I would rate them slightly higher than the standard PMAG MOE due to that and the rubber base plate.

Grain
01-28-2013, 04:15 PM
I'm in the "queue", so sometime over the next year I should receive a bounty of PMAGs. That's the plan, anyway...

Who has a queue going for pmags? Still kicking myself I missed out on the 5 for $100 sales last fall. Stupid Benelli M4 taking all my money...

blaxsun
01-28-2013, 05:47 PM
Who has a queue going for pmags? Still kicking myself I missed out on the 5 for $100 sales last fall. Stupid Benelli M4 taking all my money...

Every supplier/distributor in the US that I deal with.

Grain
01-28-2013, 05:50 PM
Every supplier/distributor in the US that I deal with.

Gotcha, thanks.