Purchasing First Firearm - Suggestions Welcome

[Newbie2019]

Hi Forum,

I recently got PAL (Both Restricted & Non-Restricted). I am based in the GTA (Greater Toronto Area).

I will be buying my first firearm soon. I have zeroed in on Mossberg Maverick 88 Security Shotgun, 12 Gauge, 18.5" Barrel.

I liked this firearm for 2 main reasons -
a. It is a non restricted firearm, hence easy to transport as it requires no permits (I do not have a shooting range membership yet).
b. It is very cost effective. (Doesn't cost a fortune).

I would appreciate if experienced members in this forum could answer following questions -
1. What would be the best type of ammunition for this shotgun? Minimum quantity of ammunition I should purchase?
2. The best method to store this gun at home? I was planning to buy a rifle case and store the shotgun (covered in silicone treated gun sock) in it. However not sure if this would be best method?

I would appreciate your valuable insights on the above mentioned.

Thanks
Newbie2019

[JustBen]

I guess we should back up a step here. What do you want to do with this firearm?

[kennymo]

Good choice. Maverick 88’s are one tough gun, and probably the best bargain priced pump shotgun on the market. They’re built by Mossberg and most parts are identical to the Mossberg 500. The safety has been moved from the tang to the trigger guard, and the trigger assembly is made a little more inexpensively. The action bars are moulded into the plastic forend IIRC, so if you ever want to swap it out with 500 parts, you may need a few extra bits.

It should do fine with any 2-3/4” or 3” 12 gauge ammunition. I like to shoot a lot of target loads in the shotguns, they’re far more economical and more than enough for pop bottles and cardboard (clean up your garbage). You can even *gasp* use them for shooting at clays, which can be interesting with a riot length barrel. These will usually contain shot in the #7 to #9 range, be 2-3/4” in length with low brass and light loads.
Buckshot, slugs and game loads for bird hunting will be more expensive, sometimes considerably. I’d avoid spending money on the game loads with the improved cylinder barrel, for target shooting it won’t do much the target loads won’t do. Fire slugs if you want a single projectile, buckshot if you want to make eight or nine largish holes in something. Either of these would be good as a defensive round if you take your gun camping. I usually buy 2-3/4” length in buck and slug, you don’t lose a whole lot of performance from the 3” rounds, but they do seem to kick a hair less.
I’d start with lighter target loads if you haven’t shot much before and work your way up to the heavier stuff. It really depends what you want to do, the beauty of a shotgun is the variety of ammunition you can get for them. May as well try it all....

I don’t like storing in a padded case. The case can trap humidity/moisture up against the firearm, I’ve seen more than one gun turn a nasty shade of orange stored in one. If you do choose that route, make sure it’s clean, moisture free and keep a light coat of oil on it inside and out.

Man I’m long winded. Must be the long weekend....

[Swingerguy]

I guess we should back up a step here. What do you want to do with this firearm?

In the context of being able to answer the question about what type of ammo, I agree that that is an appropriate question.
Outside of that context, it is nobody’s business what the OP wants to use it for, least of all our government.

Please understand that I’m not trying to be rude or condescending, I just believe that people should think hard about who they tell what too, and what they write on the internet.
Perhaps I’m being paranoid.

[GonZo]

I love my maverick 88, but it helped that my buddy had a few 500 parts sitting around so I could mess with it hahaha. Another alternative if you are looking for a cheap semi would be an SKS.

[JustBen]

In the context of being able to answer the question about what type of ammo, I agree that that is an appropriate question.
Outside of that context, it is nobody’s business what the OP wants to use it for, least of all our government.

Please understand that I’m not trying to be rude or condescending, I just believe that people should think hard about who they tell what too, and what they write on the internet.
Perhaps I’m being paranoid.

If he wants to shoot clays, I’m most certainly not doing any favours by suggesting buckshot or slugs. But I might suggest a bit longer barrel.

Don’t get me wrong, but a short barreled shotgun really isn’t a great choice for a first firearm. Unless he just wants to go for a walk on some crown land and destroy some targets or cardboard boxes, then it’s more than adequate.

[linung]

1. figure out what you gonna do with it and buy tons of ammo. If you just going to shoot it at a range, they may only allow 00 buck shot and slugs. There is no point in getting anything else. If you shoot trap or clay, you wouldn't want slugs or buck shot. You burn through them quick if you are active. So buy in bulk and consider reloading.
2. Get a safe/cabinet. The biggest one you can squeeze in your home or safely haul in the door. It's gonna be big for just one shot gun but you got room for company. Get a case for transporting.
3. Not being a member of a club doesn't prevent you from getting a restricted. They never asked on my first restricted and I made the purchase before I got in a club. You will not get approved right away. I applied to a club shortly after I got my license and it was weeks after I got in before I actually got my restricted.

[TJSpeller]

It's not that easy for a new shooter to find a place to shoot and get into the hobby, and especially if your first firearm is nonrestricted and you are in the GTA. For me, that start came from trapshooting. You get to fire hundreds of rounds, not too expensive, and there are places in the GTA where you can do that without being a member. For that you need a longer barrel shotgun. For that purpose, I would recommend a Beretta semi auto. You can buy them used. I could go on all day about guns and ammo for that. If you interested, let me know (on this thread, or PM, doesn't matter).

[Gunexpert007]

A Maverick 88 is a great choice for a first shotgun ; but I would go with the 28 inch barrel with chokes as it would be a better option for skeet and/or hunting . I think they had the Maverick 88 on sale at Cabela's not that long ago for $269 , and free shipping . For storage , all you need is a trigger lock to meet legal requirements ; and just lean it in your closet out of sight . Stack On gun cabinets come on sale quite often for around $100 at Canadian Tire if you want something a little more secure. For ammo , just get some #4 birdshot for general blasting , and #7.5 for skeet . Buy in bulk as it is quite a bit cheaper . Welcome to the shooting sports ; Enjoy......:Beer time:

[linung]

last I checked target was still taking people.

[TJSpeller]

last I checked target was still taking people.

Yup, but he wants to buy a non-restricted. No much worth doing at Target (Calibre gun club) with a non-restricted.

[glockfan]

don't know but,i've got a close to brand new winchester SX3 wood stock for 600$.if you take your time and look for a scorching deal you might fall on one eventually. not saying the maverick is any bad,just underlining that sometimes you can get more for less.the SX3 is to me the best gauge for the price.i know it's a semi,but semis are quite reliable these days. the SX3 is 100% versatile,great trap gun,probably a little heavy for hunting while walking the bush (i don't find it overly heavy), barrel is interchangeable if ever you want to go deer hunting (wich i do). my point with this long post being that the use market is filled with great deals,and .......the SX3 is a great semi gauge LOL!!

[RobertMcC]

Isnt there a Mossberg 500 that comes with both barrel. May be a better choice.

[Attilathecanuk]

Kennymo was spot on I think. Maverick 88 was my first brand new shotgun bought in 1990 when I worked at Can Tire part time and got my 15% staff discount. I still have this shotgun and use it for geese and ducks, an excellent if primitive gun. There are a lot of options out there now and I recommend you ‘shoulder’ a few to see what is comfortable and what fits because some may fit you better than others.

[Justice]

A Maverick 88 is an exact copy of the Mossberg M500. Barrels and aftermarket stuff, of which there isn't a lot, will fit.
1. Depends on what you're doing. An 18.5" M88 isn't a 'duck gun' though. (They're really good upland bird and rabbit guns though.) Short barrels are great for those critters.) You need a 26" + barrel for ducks and geese, like Gunexpert007 says. You can buy one with changeable chokes that will give you a very versatile shotgun.
There is no 'minimum' quantity of ammo. That's more about your budget than anything else. You'll have to pattern whatever you do buy too. That's basically finding out where the thing shoots and how dense the pattern is with different shot. Easier to do than describe.
2. You should have been taught this on your PAL course. A trigger lock is the absolute minimum. Then put it in the back of a closet. Doesn't hurt to put a pad lock on the closet door as well. Storing in a case is not a good idea even in a silica cloth. Cases tend to attract moisture.
"...not that easy for a new shooter..." Isn't easy for anybody given all the government persecution.

[Newbie2019]

Hi All,

I thank everyone for their valuable inputs.
I think I will got with Maverick 88 with Combo Barrel 28″ and 18.5″.

I appreciate your help not his.

[Newbie2019]

Meanwhile,

Does anyone have experience with Stack-On Stand-Up Home Defense Safe

It is being sold at Cabela's for $230. Here's the link to the website and a picture below for reference.

https://www.cabelas.com/product/shooting/gun-storage/gun-safes/pc/104792580/c/104730480/sc/104369580/stack-on-stand-up-home-defense-safe/2515479.uts?slotId=12


17481

Just considering the cost and the fact that is a Stack-On I am interested. However, there are lot of critical reviews for this on the internet (Amazon, Cabelas etc).
Can someone please shed some light on this.

Thanks

[Dewey Cox]

I was about to suggest to get the combo, but I see you figured that out.
My first shotgun was a maverick with a short barrel.
A couple years ago I bought a 28" barrel for it as well, so I could actually use it for practical things. Hindsight being 2020, buying the combo together at the start would have saved some money.

[LB303]

Meanwhile,

Does anyone have experience with Stack-On Stand-Up Home Defense Safe

It is being sold at Cabela's for $230.

Just considering the cost and the fact that is a Stack-On I am interested. However, there are lot of critical reviews for this on the internet (Amazon, Cabelas etc).
Can someone please shed some light on this.

Thanks

Wow, it looks really small...

[kennymo]

Remember that no gun safe holds as many guns as the marketing department promises.... 8 gun = 6 at best, 14 gun = about 10, etc....

[Gunrunner]

Nothing wrong with that choice.
Slide in under the wire before bill 71 takes effect.

[RobertMcC]

Remember that no gun safe holds as many guns as the marketing department promises.... 8 gun = 6 at best, 14 gun = about 10, etc....

They advertise them without scopes and optics. So a 8 gun will hold 8 rifles w/o reddots or sights. But once you add a scope, you lose at least 1 extra space.. My guns are piled ontop of each other.

[Dewey Cox]

I think people spend too much money on gun cabinets, but that's just me.

[RobertMcC]

I think people spend too much money on gun cabinets, but that's just me.

I want to upgrade mine to one of the carpet lined, just to keep the moisture off the guns

[linung]

my 8 gun safe is currently holding 4 rifle with scope, 1 rifle without scope, 1 shotgun without scope, 1 pistol with FF3 and 1 pistol just by itself.

I can squeeze in one more rifle/shotgun with scope and 3 more pistol.

:bananna::bananna::bananna::shoot: