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Mikthaniel
03-01-2013, 02:47 PM
How many, and of what calibre/configuration, weapons minimum would you consider an armoury sufficient for any hunting scenario?

For me the absolute minimum is 3 firearms and a bow.

1. 308 rifle
2. 20 guage shotgun
3. 17 hmr
4. Bow of your choice.

1. The .308 can be fed 110 gr. fmj rounds for larger varmints up to 180 gr. bullets for animals as large as moose.
2. The shottie should work for anything from varmints and defence to birds and game.
3. The 17 for any type of smaller game and pest control.
4. The bow for stealth missions.


How about you?

RobSmith
03-01-2013, 02:52 PM
The "farmer's special" a 308 or 303Brit rifle, a 12ga shotgun, and a 22lr rifle. Ammo is plentiful, and it'll kill any critter you come across.

blaxsun
03-01-2013, 02:52 PM
Any hunting scenario? A recurve.

Garetsu
03-01-2013, 03:25 PM
I don't hunt yet, but, I think I'd do the same as RobSmith!

A solid .308, a good field 12-gauge, and a .22LR.

If for no other reason, I'd do it for ammo availability.

blacksmithden
03-01-2013, 04:04 PM
300 win mag for larger game and long range shots on the prairie. Anything a 308 can do, a 300 win mag can do further. :)
12 gauge shotgun for birds such as ducks and prairie chickens (grouse for those of you back east)
22lr for anything smaller like rabbits, badgers, etc.

Mikthaniel
03-01-2013, 04:06 PM
Anything a 308 can do, a 300 win mag can do further.

But what about using it for coyotes without exploding them?

I know there is 110 gr. fmj rounds for the .308. I don't know about the 300 mag...

RobSmith
03-01-2013, 04:12 PM
I stand by my original choice as it is virtually universal in these parts. Then again we don't have Grizzlies or Buffalo to deal with over here ... If you have to take a 200+yd shot, you suck at stalking.

JustBen
03-01-2013, 04:24 PM
300 win mag for larger game and long range shots on the prairie. Anything a 308 can do, a 300 win mag can do further. :)
12 gauge shotgun for birds such as ducks and prairie chickens (grouse for those of you back east)
22lr for anything smaller like rabbits, badgers, etc.

I'd split the difference and get a .30-06 for a good all purpose rifle.

addictedshooter
03-01-2013, 04:29 PM
Whatever works for you.

Mine is 1) 30.06 rifle
2) 12 Gauge shotgun ( with slug barrel, combos are great.)
3) 22LR or 22 Mag semi auto ( no limit on mag capacity)
4) Compound or recurve bow.
5) .357 Magnum revolver

That about covers it all.

Mikthaniel
03-01-2013, 04:31 PM
You guys aren't doing a good job of convincing my wife I need a semi-auto .223 for hog hunting! I was sure that would be one of the first suggestions of something I was missing!

My current collection is:

.308 Mossberg bolt action
12 ga. Ithica pump
.17 hmr Sportster single shot
.22 lr Gevarm E1 semi-auto

I think an AR style .223 would round out the collection nicely!

addictedshooter
03-01-2013, 04:33 PM
Oh yeah... Get a semi auto .223

Mikthaniel
03-01-2013, 04:38 PM
Oh yeah... Get a semi auto .223

LOL, exactly! ....

Rory McCanuck
03-01-2013, 07:37 PM
Minimalist "Complete" Firearm Collection

How many, and of what calibre/configuration, weapons minimum would you consider an armoury sufficient for any hunting scenario?

.444 Marlin lever. Bear with me.
A .45 round ball run through a Lee sizer, with 4 gr of Unique is quiet, and will do a nice job on squirrels.
A .410 shotgun shell will get squirrels out of a tree in a hurry, and you don't have to worry about shooting up into the air. I don't know how far it will usefully pattern, but even 12 yds will get a bunch of prairie chickens.
One of those .45 balls ahead of 12 gr Unique would work nicely on a fox or bothersome raccon. At 50 yards it hits the same spot as my 300gr load does.
Three of those balls with 25 or so grains of H-335 would be a fun load. Great if you need to drop a bunch of zombies in a hurry. I've been wondering if it would be a good turkey getter, too.
A 200gr XTP @ 2700 fps should turn a coyote inside out.
A 240 or 300gr works very nicely on whitetail. You don't need a 300gr, but they're the most accurate bullet I've found in my gun.
The Hornady 265gr FP @ 2250 or so is pretty much guaranteed to go lengthwise through a moose or two.
The factory 265gr FTX works well on whitetail too, and I know I can hit a 10" pumpkin at 275 yards three times in a row.
A 350gr hardcast would be enough for most African game. Not recommended, of course, but would do if pressed.

That covers a whole bunch of bases with one rifle.
I haven't really enjoyed eating waterfowl, but add a 12 or 20 ga, and I think a person would be pretty well covered.

Be pretty boring, though. ;)

Mikthaniel
03-01-2013, 08:16 PM
Dang Rory, that IS minimal!

Freyr_255
03-01-2013, 09:10 PM
1) 375 H&H - predators to essentially elephant(not legal for elephant as far as I know nowadays...) without destroying the animal/meat. Has a 9-12" drop @ 300m w/ 300gr bullets and zeroed at 200m(2" high @ 100m). 400m is getting more tricky and 500m is pushing it.
2) 22lr - any and all small game
3) 12ga - all small game and waterfowl.

Pretty sure that covers 'everything'. Coincidently if you add a 6.5x55 to that you have my main hunting collection. :D

And if I wanted to go truly minimal I guess I could take Rory's approach only using my Rossi 1892 in 454 Casull. The round ball loadings I have to load single shot, but they are quieter than most 22lr. Not as accurate as I'd like though. Then I have loadings all the way up to 300gr FP hardcasts bullets for bear and should I get around to working on it meeting the requirements for bison up here.

cmiller82
03-01-2013, 09:53 PM
1) 45-70 Marlin Guide Gun - Deer, Moose, Bear inside of 150 yards
2) 20ga 870 26" VT - Duck, Goose, Partridge
3) 1943 Mauser 96 in 6.5x55mm - Deer, Coyote, varmint out to 300+ yards.
4) Savage Mark II in 22LR - Small game inside 100 yards.

I'm still missing:

5) .308 bolt for big game at 200+ yards, but where I hunt it's unlikely.
6) .223 bolt for small game past 100 yards
7) JR Carbine in .45... for fun.
8) 50 cal muzzle loader, for when I need the hunting season to be longer.

Minimalist is not a work I understand... although I refrained from making my list go to 20.

FlyingHigh
03-01-2013, 11:28 PM
If i could only keep three of my guns right now, it'd be these ones.

1. Remington 700 in 7mm Rem Mag
2. Mossberg Maverick 88 (aka AK40-shotgun) 12ga
3. Ruger 10/22.

I also own a Bowtech Equalizer compound bow and all the goodies to go with it.

YukonLeftie
03-02-2013, 01:06 AM
Minimalist? Oh, you must mean for out in the bush! ;)

However, in all seriousness, I do need to point out what was grazed earlier - in some areas, certain game can only be taken legally with rifles above X caliber - ie, here in the Yukon, Bison can only be taken with 30.06 or better. You may wish to check your local regs if that is a consideration. Of course, in the chance encounter of a griz, Im a firm subscriber to the biggest chunk of metal exiting that barrel as hard and fast as possible; with its buddies in hot pursuit until that grizzly is a rug. I am personally not entirely convinced (having not tried nor seen it myself) the effectiveness of a 12g up against said griz; if it were a pump or semi loaded with slugs and/or heavy buck yea but they again would be leaving the chamber but quick.


Anyway. For me, bareballs minimum for the bush is my TOZ 17-01 .22 for small game, and either my 30/30, Enfield .303 or (coming this summer) my Tikka T3 Lite in 06. Im not one for taking birds with shotguns; i consider it wasteful, and leave it for those whose vision isnt what it used to be - but to be fair, the birds I go for are literally small chicken sized. I might change my tune if I went for geeze or duck...

Now, if we could ever get this nonsensical idiotic Restricted ATT scrapped, then when out for small game only Id leave the big boys at home and take the SR1911 in their place; leaving my my .22 for the game. Hopefully this year...

blacksmithden
03-02-2013, 02:28 AM
But what about using it for coyotes without exploding them?

I know there is 110 gr. fmj rounds for the .308. I don't know about the 300 mag...

The 300 win mag is just a higher powered 308 caliber cartridge. I reload everything I shoot, so I can load them from mild to something that will leave your shoulder aching from the recoil. For just general plinking, I load them with my cast bullets and 16 grains of Unique. That puts them around a light 30-30 win load. For stopping anything from moose to grizzlies, 72 grains of 7828 powder under a 180 grain soft point, jacketed bullet. You can load them even a little hotter than that, but all you're really doing is punishing your shoulder. The point being, if you reload, the cartridge can be easily tailored to your needs from powder puff to some really heavy, often overkill, long range knockdown power. I've fallen completely in love with the cartridge over the years.

Laramie Longhorn
03-04-2013, 12:31 AM
I'd say,
.22LR - bolt or single shot
12ga shotgun - more plentiful ammunition and variety of loads than any other

and a bolt or single shot centerfire in the largest caliber that you can shoulder. For most people that's a 30-06. .308 or .303 are other good choices for Canadians, due to availability of ammo and knock down power.
If I didn't want to have a safe full of guns, and wanted easily obtainable, cheap (relatively) ammo and firearms, that's what I'd have.
For smaller framed people, or youths, I'd recommend a 7mm-08, 30-30 or .243. Recoil is manageable, availability is good and selection of actions and ammo is excellent.

30-06 is a great caliber. The first recorded North American grand slam went to a 30-06.

Remember, minimalist.

The trouble with this "hobby" is that it soon outstrips need and includes want. I want a falling block action Ruger #1. Any caliber. Because cool. I want a double rifle in .416 Rigby. Because my subdivision has a problem with hippos. I need a semi-auto .223. Because zombies, duh...

blacksmithden
03-04-2013, 12:59 AM
I'd say,
.22LR - bolt or single shot
12ga shotgun - more plentiful ammunition and variety of loads than any other

and a bolt or single shot centerfire in the largest caliber that you can shoulder. For most people that's a 30-06. .308 or .303 are other good choices for Canadians, due to availability of ammo and knock down power.
If I didn't want to have a safe full of guns, and wanted easily obtainable, cheap (relatively) ammo and firearms, that's what I'd have.
For smaller framed people, or youths, I'd recommend a 7mm-08, 30-30 or .243. Recoil is manageable, availability is good and selection of actions and ammo is excellent.

30-06 is a great caliber. The first recorded North American grand slam went to a 30-06.

Remember, minimalist.

The trouble with this "hobby" is that it soon outstrips need and includes want. I want a falling block action Ruger #1. Any caliber. Because cool. I want a double rifle in .416 Rigby. Because my subdivision has a problem with hippos. I need a semi-auto .223. Because zombies, duh...

One of our members here has a 416 Rigby. Yea...it'll stop a freight train, but man....that recoil is a little more that I'd care to deal with on any kind of a regular basis.

YukonLeftie
03-04-2013, 01:12 AM
One of our members here has a 416 Rigby. Yea...it'll stop a freight train, but man....that recoil is a little more that I'd care to deal with on any kind of a regular basis.

I take it pulling both (Im assuming twin) triggers makes a bit of a thump?

Mikthaniel
03-04-2013, 12:00 PM
I need a semi-auto .223. Because zombies, duh...

And THERE's the argument I was looking for!

Joe549
03-14-2013, 04:49 PM
Out of the guns I currently own I would pick;

Mossberg 500 12 gauge
Has 28" field barrel and 24" inch rifled barrel making it good for almost any situation
Savage 111 .270
Scoped bolt action that is reliable, accurate and flat shooting. Good for deer and moose.
Winchester 100 .308
Semi-auto with iron sights and good for brush and most large animals.
Savage 93 .22WMR
Bolt action and scope, very accurate out to 100 yards has more punch than the .22
Ruger SR22
Semi-auto .22 because everyone needs a semi auto .22

enerflex
03-14-2013, 07:48 PM
I;m not even gonna try to comment, my wife may see it and hold me to it!!

BuckingFastard
03-14-2013, 08:04 PM
Lol at shooter 67, I guess I'm more of a Maximus gun owner, I have a gun or two dedicated to every situation. But if I would have to choose three of them, they would be

1) cz 550 in 30-06 or 375 H&H, torn on this decision
2) savage 1899 take down in 22hp 52x56r (ideally have the 410 & 22hp barrel set) rare!
3) beretta silver pigeon or cz woodcock in 12 gauge

There is nothing in NA you can't hunt with these choices, take away #1 choices and sub in a 416 rigby and you got the world covered IMO

lone-wolf
03-14-2013, 08:14 PM
Hmmm...
.223 for yotes
.17 for fox
.308 for deer
12ga for geese/ducks
.22/410 combo gun for rabbit & upland bird.

happykal
03-27-2013, 04:43 AM
1. Browning BLR 308 rifle for moose, deer and wolf
2. remington 870 supermag 12 guage shotgun for birds, waterfowl and yes I will shoot a deer with it if I see one.
3. Ruger SR22 for Varmits, rabbits and if those damn sharptail are flushing 50 yards ahead of me then sitting a top the trees taunting me the .22 usually shuts em up. All though most can agree you look like a crazy person and turn heads when people see you hunting with an sr 22.
4. Bow of choice I have an old white tail hunter and white tail hunter 2. lol I suppose I'd choose the whitetail hunter 2.

Rory McCanuck
04-01-2013, 10:32 PM
.444 Marlin lever. Bear with me.

A .410 shotgun shell will get squirrels out of a tree in a hurry, and you don't have to worry about shooting up into the air. I don't know how far it will usefully pattern, but even 12 yds will get a bunch of prairie chickens.

Three of those balls with 25 or so grains of H-335 would be a fun load. Great if you need to drop a bunch of zombies in a hurry. I've been wondering if it would be a good turkey getter, too.



Well, I got a little bit ahead of myself there. The rim on the .410 is about 0.010" too big for the 444 bolt face, so I had to do a bit of MacGyvering.
http://gunownersofcanada.ca/showthread.php?7262-Creative-Reloading-or-Tired-of-the-Same-Ol-Same-Old&p=67963#post67963

The three ball load worked well too. I tried 20.5gr of H-335, because that was how much my dipper weighed out. Pretty mild, I could bump it up a good bit, but even so it was a fun load to try.

mavrik9
07-10-2013, 05:51 PM
1. Old faithful, 30-06 bolt action
2. Mavrick 88 12 ga. (fill it with dirt and it still works)
3. Ruger 10/22lr
4. A 60-70lb re-curve

Strewth
07-10-2013, 07:30 PM
Those all sound like good choices...
Does anyone have experience with one of those bigger calibre drillings? 30-06 over 12 sounds pretty multi-purpose....12.7x44r over 12 gauge sounds fun? With a .22rf insert? All in one, then? Hmmm howzabout a x25 insert for my Mosin?

Stephen
07-11-2013, 06:31 PM
.45-70 :slap:

Halfton
07-13-2013, 10:16 AM
To keep it to an absolute Minimum, then it should consist of....1 rifle of 270 to 338 cal for big game and loaded with lighter bullets for Coyotes etc., some form of a rimfire for small game and a shotgun, probably finding a 12 gauge 3in chamber been the most versatile.

Jim

lanaire
07-13-2013, 12:31 PM
since I am already a minimalist-- this is what I have
270Win, loaded for both coyote and then larger game
my shotgun, 12g, although I think if I were to have to depend on it on a more regular basis I would upgrade to a different one
and my .22lr

not much I cant hit with those three...

lone-wolf
07-13-2013, 01:01 PM
Some days when I see a half dozen unsighted in firearms in the cabinet, I think, fear the man with only one rifle, cause he'll know how to use it.

Camp Cook
07-18-2013, 08:39 PM
I'm into stainless steel T/C Contender carbines so my minimalist list obviously will be built off of this platform.

The following barrel/cartridge combo's are capable of covering all hunting in the world the 375JDJ cartridge has even taken elephant.

S/S Gen 1 Contender carbine frame

16.5" 22LR factory tapered barrel

21" 223 factory tapered barrel

23" 6.8SPC bull barrel

21" 375JDJ factory tapered barrel

22" 45-70 bull barrel

24" Gonic 50 cal magnum barrel (if there where to ever be a black powder season again in BC again)

I will also never be without my modified 21" barreled Rem 700 LSS in 375RUM what can I say when a fellow needs one rifle to take anything anywhere at any distance this is the combo I would grab.

Mikthaniel
09-26-2013, 12:41 AM
Upgraded my Mossberg 100ATR...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1235316_10151901910095170_720656805_n.jpg

Mikthaniel
09-26-2013, 12:44 AM
I found a local handloader that can provide me with 110 gr. rounds for varmints and some nice Speer Spitzer BTSP 165 gr. for larger beasties...
I am thinking my .17hmr is feeling a little threatened...

lone-wolf
09-26-2013, 09:58 AM
308?

bradofcanada
09-26-2013, 12:25 PM
Mine is :

.308 M14

Maverick 88 Field gun 12 gauge

Marlin 795 .22

Excaliber Matrix 380 Xtra Crossbow

Mikthaniel
09-26-2013, 02:44 PM
308?

Yessirree bub!

Coachgun67
09-26-2013, 09:53 PM
.45-70 :slap:

Yup! And for mine the almost same rules go as Rory stated for the 444...Don't have a bow or muzzle loader,but I could take my H&R handi,load a primed cardridge,fill it with 90grs pyrodex from the front and insert an arrow (or shoot with the damn ramrod) LOLROFL. And back to be serious,the 45/70 takes the .410 without modifications as long as you stick with 2 1/2"s

NorCalDustin
09-26-2013, 10:58 PM
1) AR-15;
2) Glock 19,
3) Ruger 10/22;
4) Mossberg Shotgun;
5) .30 Caliber Boltgun

Sadosubliminal
09-27-2013, 07:05 AM
Minimalist is a subjective term. My collection would be considered minimalist by most standards. All the same:

1 - 10/22
2 - Maverick 88 12 gauge
3 - Rem 700 in .308

That right there will cover most scenarios I can think of. I could also throw in an SKS, just because they are dependable, and a .357 revolver. I really want a .357 revolver, just haven't got around to buying one yet.

tuffteddyb
10-08-2013, 11:12 PM
If I was going for minimum it would be my 338 winmag.....185's for little stuff
210's for bigger stuff
225's or 250's for the really big stuff
BUT!!!!
mine would be a 223 or 22/250
then a 280 rem or a 7 rem mag
then of course the 338 win mag.
I dont hunt birds,but a 12 guage of some kind would work and a 22 long rifle,or a 22wmr

tuffteddyb
10-08-2013, 11:14 PM
Oh and i hope you have better luck than i didwith those 30 cal 110 grains,had better luck with 125's

Mikthaniel
01-08-2014, 02:32 AM
Update to the collection!

http://i.imgur.com/lXWoAN6.jpg

In hindsight, even though it is my favourite of the bunch to shoot, the .17 hmr should be a .243.

I could use it for varmints and the wife can use it for deer. I just don't trust the .17 for anything larger than a porcupine or raccoon unless you take headshots only.

Tytalus
03-03-2014, 03:12 PM
For a guy who's not hunting big bears or into long range shooting, and where recoil is an issue:

1.) 0.22lr
2.) .223 in semi auto
3.) 7mm-08
4.) 20 gauge shotgun

bettercallsaul
04-30-2014, 04:40 PM
I'm working on a minimalist hunting collection.

Rifle: Remington 700BDL 30.06 *already own* (needs an optic, probably Vortex Diamondback)
Shotgun: 28-30'' SxS 12 gauge: (haven't decided yet, something from Trade Ex Canada)
Revolver: S&W 586 6'' (will buy this when one becomes available)

The S&W would act more as a woods defense revolver, if only we were legally allowed to carry one. It's a revolver I've always wanted.

Facepalm
05-13-2014, 07:49 AM
If I was restricted to a couple of firearms, then probably a 12 gauge would fit most of the needs. Though I carry a 3030, and a 308, and.....

The one thing that seems to be missing is a pellet pistol. I carry one for small game and grouse. Kills like a .22, but with more bird left over. I can shoot right from my saddle without thinking about my horses ears.

superbrad
05-13-2014, 09:13 AM
1- .17hmr (Pests, groundhogs, fox, coon)
2- .22lr (short range, rabbits and pest control)
3- .223 (Yotes)
4- .243 (Wolves)
5- .30-06 (Deer, black bear, moose, elk)
6- .375 H&H (Everything bigger than number 5... think grizz)
7- 12 Gauge (Turkey, upland game, waterfowl)

With the above you have backups for everything by loading up or down....

goosesniper
05-13-2014, 09:23 AM
I'm in need of a semi auto shotgun for waterfowl. Could use with a 30/06. Need a muzzleloader or rifled barrel for shot gun. Also could use with a 410 or 20 gauge.

topher
05-13-2014, 09:41 AM
My shotgun. And a bow. Can kill anything with my shotgun... And can make an arrow out of almoay anything.. To save ammo.
I'll take my 270,though for knocking over zombies at long range.

Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk

Facepalm
05-13-2014, 09:55 AM
I'm in need of a semi auto shotgun for waterfowl. Could use with a 30/06. Need a muzzleloader or rifled barrel for shot gun. Also could use with a 410 or 20 gauge.

I have a 12 gauge Humpback, love it, but found one in 20 gauge at the gun show. Everyone thinks that a 12 is the only thing for waterfowl, the only difference is the amount of pellets. Everything else is the same. 410's are great, bit I do not know anywhere to get steel shot for them, so migratory is out with them. I used to use mine for geese back in the day when lead was permitted.

slim
06-24-2015, 01:01 AM
heavy but versatile calibers, drop any game, and can load with many different tailor or home made rounds for specific hunting.......but will also keep from finding yourself "under gunned" if you have a run in with another alpha predator......

Myself I hunt a lot (mostly with bow) but for firearms 'im a 3 gun hunter .......depending what terrain im in....

open areas, cut blocks and such..... a .338 WIN mag, fast, accurate...and packs a whollup for anything long range...or too close for comfort
thickets, my Mar 45-70GS.....good out to 200 yards..but rarely ever get a shot that long.......and again..packs a whollup for anything long range..or too close for comfort....
Finally...a shotgun for everything else, short..with screw in chokes....over under..my choice...skinny enough to pack...and screw in chokes for everything from slugs...to tight chokes for long shots....

just my 2 cents :)

code_slinger
06-24-2015, 02:05 AM
.303, .308, or .30-06 bolt action rifle
12g shotgun, pump or semi. 20g is fine, too.
.22LR rifle, probably bolt for longer range hunting
.223 semi for coyote
That covers hunting and plinking.

Since we're talking about a collection, I'd add:
.22LR handgun, revolver or semi
Any "fun" cartridge > .22 handgun, revolver or semi
For fun and flipping off grabbers. :pot:

Still working on rounding up my own examples of the above.

Swampdonkey
06-24-2015, 10:41 AM
I have a 12 gauge Humpback, love it, but found one in 20 gauge at the gun show. Everyone thinks that a 12 is the only thing for waterfowl, the only difference is the amount of pellets. Everything else is the same. 410's are great, bit I do not know anywhere to get steel shot for them, so migratory is out with them. I used to use mine for geese back in the day when lead was permitted.

I sense a shotshell press in your future . . .

NoTarget
06-24-2015, 09:01 PM
I love this game:
1) Ruger Scout 308
2) Ruger American 22lr
3) Mossberg Maverick 12 gauge
4) I don't own a bow so I'll pick my Ruger SR1911

Zinilin
06-24-2015, 09:18 PM
(762) 556-1222

webster
06-24-2015, 10:56 PM
Minimalist and complete, eh? That's a lot of bases to cover.

For long guns, you'd need at very least a rimfire, a centrefire 30 cal (take your pick) and a shotgun.

And since long guns are only half of the equation, you'd need handguns too. Bare minimum of a rimfire of your choosing, plus a revolver and a semiauto, both centrefire, and preferably at different power levels.

Of course, no collection is complete without at least one bow. Again, take your pick on style.

Basically, six guns and a bow is a good starting point. :)