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Homme007
06-13-2022, 08:48 PM
After a 6 month wait, I finally got my RPAL/PAL. Question is what's next?

I have seen some folks doing PSC -- and that's cool.. I want to try.. but in looking at the race guns.. its ridiculous in price.

The original reason why I want to do this is to go hunt or long range target shooting. But where do I start?

I still have to find a gun club to join right? Where do I buy guns? Its almost like I don't even know where to start!!! and what questions to ask!!

Dewey Cox
06-13-2022, 08:59 PM
Go to a gunshop, and buy some guns.
If you want a hand gun, go right now.
Yesterday would have been better.

blacksmithden
06-13-2022, 09:08 PM
Well...for restricted stuff - handguns - You sure hit it at the wrong time. I believe in Ontario, you must be a member of a club before the CFO will approve a transfer. I could be wrong on that. I haven't looked into that lately. If that is the case, getting a handgun into your name before "the freeze" takes effect is going to be pretty hard. On top of your time constraints, you've got the near zero inventory issue as well. Dealers are selling out of everything fast and hard. Hopefully one of the guys from Ontario can offer you better direction than I can on the whole issue.

Non-restricted stuff isn't an issue. That's still business as usual. There's places around the GTA to buy long guns. Just do a google. Al Simmons in Hamilton, Bass Pro/Cabelas north of the city. Possibly some Canadian Tires are dealers just outside the GTA. I'm sure you'll get lots of responses. Check out our Marketplace for private sales, Gun Post, Town Post etc are also places to look. Kijiji and Facebook Marketplace don't allow gun sales so don't bother with them. If you're buying off any of the gun sites, including ours, be extremely careful making deals with people who have just signed up and have 0 for a trader rating. There have been plenty of scammers over the years and once you send them that EMT, it's pretty much impossible to get it back.

Big-Boss-Man
06-13-2022, 09:37 PM
Well...for restricted stuff - handguns - You sure hit it at the wrong time. I believe in Ontario, you must be a member of a club before the CFO will approve a transfer. I could be wrong on that.

I thought Ontario was the only province that didn't expect range membership? Either way you will need to have a range to shoot a restricted.


SFRC still has a few handgun available, I would suggest getting one while you can, they are selling out fast all across the country. Grab a decent hunting rifle with decent glass and a sufficient caliber for the animal that you intend on hunting. There are a lot of options out there for different caliber rifle combinations, google will be your friend for your search for a rifle. Reach out to ofah they are pretty helpful, I am sure they would be able to point you in the right direction and give you some good advice.

labradort
06-14-2022, 05:55 AM
Toronto is going to be a long drive to anywhere you can hunt or do long range target shooting. If you've never hunted before, you need another course on that. The hunting course can be done online, and really it's mostly about safety and good behaviour, not how to actually hunt. You should find a mentor for hunting - learn from the experienced.

LB303
06-14-2022, 07:33 AM
Range membership is a murky question. Better to have a membership somewhere, just put it that way.
There was a case about 10 yrs ago where the CFO of the time tried to impose that, but the gun owner successfully rebuffed the condition in court. Trouble is, court is much more expensive than a range membership. And then the CFO just ignored the ruling iirc.
Don't know how he got away with that, it's contempt if you or I do that, but no consequences for him, and he retired with full pension. So just be aware you are asking a demi-god for permission to use your permission (license), and at least tell them you are actively looking for a range to join.

stevebc
06-14-2022, 11:22 AM
What others have said is correct: if you want a handgun, buy one TODAY, and hope the transfer goes through before Trudeau issues another OIC to shut it all down.

Seriously. TODAY.

chuckufarlie
06-14-2022, 01:12 PM
In Ontario you don't need a range membership to buy a restricted (I've bought a few over the years with no current range membership), so go ahead and buy a handgun ASAP before that window closes.

You will need a range membership to use the restricted, and may need it on PAL renewal in five years in your case (apparently they ask some of the time)... but a lot of ranges here have a waiting list, so might as well get that ball rolling as it might take some time.

If you do put your name on a waiting list somewhere, put that club's name down as pending when you purchase the restricted. So a good example is Range Burlington. I think I waited 1.5 years to get in. Put your name on their waiting list, buy a handgun and put Range Burlington (pending) when the seller asks for club. That worked for me; these days your mileage may vary.

Homme007
06-14-2022, 08:22 PM
Range membership is a murky question. Better to have a membership somewhere, just put it that way.
There was a case about 10 yrs ago where the CFO of the time tried to impose that, but the gun owner successfully rebuffed the condition in court. Trouble is, court is much more expensive than a range membership. And then the CFO just ignored the ruling iirc.
Don't know how he got away with that, it's contempt if you or I do that, but no consequences for him, and he retired with full pension. So just be aware you are asking a demi-god for permission to use your permission (license), and at least tell them you are actively looking for a range to join.

Really? you need to be affliated with a gun range before you can purchase any firearm?

Homme007
06-14-2022, 08:24 PM
Geez.. any places in the GTA that I can buy one? looks like a lot of places are sold out!

blacksmithden
06-14-2022, 08:35 PM
Geez.. any places in the GTA that I can buy one? looks like a lot of places are sold out!

Not in Ontario, but check your notifications. Top right of the page. Pickings are pretty slim right now. As far as non restricted stuff goes, no, you don't have to be affiliated with a range at all. Just go and buy one.

4*60
06-15-2022, 12:46 AM
But online like at gotenda. Two for one revolver, semiautos. :)

awndray
06-15-2022, 06:05 AM
Question is what's next?

Read this person's story: https://www.gunownersofcanada.ca/showthread.php/65196-The-Journey-of-a-Newbie

LB303
06-15-2022, 07:30 AM
Really? you need to be affliated with a gun range before you can purchase any firearm?

Read it again. CYA is what it boils down to.

Swingerguy
06-15-2022, 10:36 AM
In Alberta I had to include my range membership in order to renew my rpal, but I know a guy who used to be a prospector in the Yukon, who is now an Albertan. He was able to carry for protection in the bush around 25/30 years ago, he is still able to renew his rpal without a range membership.
Bottom line is, you might get a different answer depending on who you ask, including whoever is validating your transfer.

awndray
06-15-2022, 10:39 AM
Similar to this post...


He in fact is not right. Nowhere in the Criminal Code does it say such a thing. The "legal reasons to acquire" that people often refer to and that the CFO's insist on, are made up and cemented by everybody complying or going along with that narrative. Nowhere does it say one cannot purchase a firearm for protection, Regulations be damned.

...it's a made up regulation and entirely at the whim of the power-tripping rubber-stamper.

Aniest
06-17-2022, 11:04 AM
I’ll add this here as it might help the OP.

I hear the buyer doesn’t have to call to confirm information on a private sale anymore as long as the seller has all of the buyer’s information.

Is that true?

And then in Alberta only the buyer gets the approval of transfer notice (I know this, just adding the note) so the buyer has to give this to the seller.

Homme007
06-21-2022, 08:40 PM
well.. definitely hard to find any handguns now. They are pretty much OUT OF STOCK EVERYWHERE!! But I still managed to get my hands on a few guns... now just waiting for the transfer to be done.. Then I can bring these babies home... Some are saying the transfer process takes 1-3 months in Ontario... is this for real?

Grimlock
06-22-2022, 08:16 AM
It might take 6...
Good luck. Find anything fun?

Homme007
06-25-2022, 11:56 AM
It might take 6...
Good luck. Find anything fun?

Was able to get my hands on a
Kriss Vector Gen II SBR Enhanced - 9mm, 6.5" (foldable stock)
CZ P10F 9mm
CZ Shadow 2 9mm
Walthers PDP 4.5" 9mm
Shadow System DR920 Elite 9mm

And can't believe the 3-6 month transfer times....

Big-Boss-Man
06-25-2022, 12:37 PM
Was able to get my hands on a
Kriss Vector Gen II SBR Enhanced - 9mm, 6.5" (foldable stock)
CZ P10F 9mm
CZ Shadow 2 9mm
Walthers PDP 4.5" 9mm
Shadow System DR920 Elite 9mm

And can't believe the 3-6 month transfer times....

congrats on the shadow2 they are basically unicorns now. If all else failed I was going to suggest the iwi Jericho because they are based of the cz75 which is the shadow 1. The surplus one that my buddy got was so awesome I had to buy one right away after trying his [I knew I wanted one for months but had I not tried his I would've been happy to 'go without' because of the buying frenzy, but thankfully I found some at SFRC]