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TV-PressPass
04-01-2013, 08:26 PM
Belt fed. That's pretty sweet eh?

Wonder if a gun like the Vz59 is on the prohib list anywhere?

Because its an LMG mostly.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNE860_gL9Q

But then . . . the lads in America do crazy things. Like make semi-only versions and get them approved by the ATF.

http://i.imgur.com/51MK9nM.jpg


Our Semi UK-59 begins as a 40 pound block of 4140 steel, which is CNC milled to the exact dimensions of the original UK-59 receiver, with the exception of larger internal rails, and a different interior profile where the front of the bolt carrier meets the receiver. This ensures that the receiver is considered semi-auto by the ATF, and perfectly legal to own.

That sounds pretty good right?


MarColMar then contracted with Lothar Walther of Germany, to order custom 7.62x54r machine gun grade barrel blanks, which we then turned to the exact O.D. dimensions of the original UK-59. These blanks are then chrome-lined by the same company that does many of the industry's best manufacturers, to give you same quality barrel as was the original.

MarColMar's ATF approved semi-auto design also retains the original method of charging the gun, via a movable pistol grip. This unique feature ensured that the squad gunner could keep their firing hand on the pistol grip at all times, allowing them to keep their eyes on the target and provide for extremely fast clearing of misfires and misfeeds. This was the very same design feature many thought could never be retained in an approved design, and keeps the spirit of the original design alive for modern collectors and shooters.

This design results in a semi conversion that is virtually indistinguishable from the original gun. The incorporation of the semi-hammer or striker converts the gun to closed bolt operation.


Well geez that sounds pretty good to me. Made by http://www.marcolmarfirearms.com/

Retail is almost $6k but they have an intro price on the first fifty guns at $4,295

Anyone ballsy enough to reach out to an importer and have them bring one in? That's a similar price-range to the other belt-fed-beauties currently available in this country.

Or am I way off base? Is this thing actually a Bren gun variant and prohibited by association with gang violence . . . gang violence? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FpO3_60GJo)

http://www.weaponeer.net/forum/uploads/Weaponeer/images/2007-10-22_010200_5257.jpg

http://fcdn.valka.cz/files/thumbs/t_vz59_ab.jpg

Strewth
04-01-2013, 10:31 PM
I thought the rumor (no April Foolin') was the PKM with the American remade receiver was submitted for an FRT? Saskatchewan Gun Works I think, retail < $2000, they go for $1500 in the States? This was part of the reason I threw it up in the most wanted Red Rifle thread...'cause there's an outside chance I could has it.....?

Zahal.org
04-08-2013, 08:17 AM
The pistol grip charging handle is very strange! Saw one of these during our last tour of the Czech Republic.

Could use some Fab-Defense parts to make it scary and black!

Syphen
04-09-2013, 05:16 AM
Vz59 FRT # 67024. Prohib.

TV-PressPass
04-09-2013, 07:51 AM
Based on name or based on being full auto?

I dunno. I thought the guys getting all hyped up over the RPD were off their rockers. But if this thing uses a totally new receiver: that's worth something in my mind.

RobSmith
04-09-2013, 08:11 AM
IIRC somebody had some prototype semi-autos built but the RCMP classed them as prohib so the project to bring those in was cancelled.

mspben
05-20-2013, 10:26 AM
I thought the rumor (no April Foolin') was the PKM with the American remade receiver was submitted for an FRT? Saskatchewan Gun Works I think, retail < $2000, they go for $1500 in the States? This was part of the reason I threw it up in the most wanted Red Rifle thread...'cause there's an outside chance I could has it.....?

Not PKM - RPD.

Makes me want one real bad, especially if they show up for <$3000. Belt fed madness!

ETA: Images shamelessly stolen from DSA's website:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-WXF8sgGi3Fs/UZpPmEaQkVI/AAAAAAAAAQc/4rGkLYmCXQ8/w657-h370-no/RPDRIFLE.jpg

But I would try to get this one with an 18.5" barrel:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KZN2juBA1og/UZpPoZtBprI/AAAAAAAAAQk/Xxke8afDsSo/w657-h311-no/RPDCARBINE.JPG

Ben

Strewth
05-20-2013, 10:37 AM
^Oh right, thanks! In the loving hands of the RCMP for classification in a month?....maybe they'll be quick with this one.....sigh....

TV-PressPass
05-21-2013, 02:56 PM
Lol, yes . Quick. RCMP.

You're funny.

Stephen
05-21-2013, 04:44 PM
So what's the deal with the RPK. Are the belts limited to a certain length? Because I want one!

RobSmith
05-21-2013, 05:05 PM
Not the original leather ones since it actually came out in 1943 ;) RPD that is.


So what's the deal with the RPK. Are the belts limited to a certain length? Because I want one!

Stephen
05-21-2013, 06:33 PM
Not the original leather ones since it actually came out in 1943 ;) RPD that is.



Hahaha. When I typed that I was telling myself RPD not RPK and still got it wrong.

Satain
05-21-2013, 09:49 PM
Hmmm...
I hope John can pull this one out of his magical hat.

Sadosubliminal
05-22-2013, 01:52 PM
So much want...