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stevesummit
09-08-2013, 07:39 PM
On Saturday a few of us ran out to a special spot Dmay has that clocks in at 2603 yard. Dmay was shooting his custom barrelled hs50 , Sdeviation with his 338 edge AI and me with the cheytac .Jwire and bullwhip were the spotters for this shoot and they did a great job!! Now before I go any further I have to congratulate Dmay, after about 20 rounds he connected with three consecutive hits at 2600 yards ! He has pics of the hits so I will let him post them up in the thread.

Now the numbers I had figured out for the cheytac said with the rail I have and the inturnal elevation on the mk4 there should be just enough! But it didn't quite work out I was over 40 min short ! So I will put this out there for others that deal with long range shooting who makes a blank one piece rail with no mounting holes? I would be looking for a 50 moa rail !

So this brings me to the next thing I am going to add to this rifle and that is some better glass . Now dont bother suggesting sightron or bushnell this rifle deserves a high end set of lenses. I have been looking at the beast or something else in that price range. I looked at s&b but the model I looked at only has 60 min of internal elevation, so that's no where near enough. I will say also that I am a sfp guy

So fill me in on what the other long range guys are using for stupid long distance !!

Steve

I would also like to thank Dmay for opening up his range to us in this quest we have to hit shit a long ways away!

jwirecom109
09-08-2013, 07:48 PM
We almost got there, next time.

Thanks again Dmay for the invite.

Satain
09-08-2013, 07:52 PM
Yep either get a greater moa rail or an S&B that has greater moa range.

blacksmithden
09-08-2013, 08:12 PM
What about taking the rail you already have and milling it down on a taper to give you more elevation ? How long is your rail....I might be able to pull this off with what I have here.

stevesummit
09-08-2013, 08:19 PM
i was thinking about that also but i would have to measure it and see if there is enough meat to mill it down another 30 moa lol

tigrr
09-08-2013, 11:35 PM
Ok now tell me how big the target was?? And what no trees behind the target for kentucky windage.
Steve you need a NightForce. Buy once cry once.
Congrats on the hits DMAY.

blacksmithden
09-08-2013, 11:38 PM
The total length would have to be 6 1/2"....maybe a touch more. The cross slide will do 6 5/16"...then we'd gain a bit from the diameter of the end mill. Either that, or wait a few months until I finally get a proper vertical knee mill in here, and then there would be no problem up to 14 1/2"

stevesummit
09-09-2013, 06:21 AM
Ok now tell me how big the target was?? And what no trees behind the target for kentucky windage.
Steve you need a NightForce. Buy once cry once.
Congrats on the hits DMAY.

Well the target wasn't small, but it was very workable ! And I am leaning to a n/f

And I do believe the rail is 9 inches long

Dmay
09-09-2013, 06:32 AM
Well Boys, we got the range and target now, so let's make more use of it.....

It was a great time, and thank you Steve for the welding. And friend Germain for assistance in set-up.

Can just see the white dot in the distance:

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l204/dmay223/DSCF1853_zps26a2698b.jpg (http://s97.photobucket.com/user/dmay223/media/DSCF1853_zps26a2698b.jpg.html)

Target is about 8ft X 10ft. 750 Amax didn't penetrate, but put a dent, and lifted enough paint to easily spot hits.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l204/dmay223/DSCF1856_zps6b27942a.jpg (http://s97.photobucket.com/user/dmay223/media/DSCF1856_zps6b27942a.jpg.html)

Not much of a group, I admit, although, in fairness, I did adjust POA a little each shot.....
And ya Tigrr.....no graduated trees behind, so ya gotta bring optics;D

Point of interest: "Strelok" ballistic program was closer to predicting what I needed than "Shooter", I gotta analyse the input into both and see whats going on......

But there we have it, the challenge is up, target won the first round, but we gotta get back there and put some more dents in him. Expect you, Steve and Sdeviation, back to put your marks on soon, and see how many others we can get on target. Looking forward to see it humiliate Armorman, once the snow flies and he's back to his winter couch-sitting job.....;D



http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l204/dmay223/DSCF1851_zps09330148.jpg (http://s97.photobucket.com/user/dmay223/media/DSCF1851_zps09330148.jpg.html)

SavageLapua
09-09-2013, 06:41 AM
Sounds like you had a very productive weekend! I guess I had better get my ass in gear and get my .338 Impoved together... As for the rail, Brownells carries picatinny blanks. Or you might be able to find one at ATRS.

SL

tigrr
09-09-2013, 09:37 AM
Man you guys sure set the bar high!! Must look for some mountains to shoot from peak to peak to reach 2600 yards.
Looks like a 338 is in my future. Oh done! Savage 110FCP LAW ENFORCEMENT HS PRECISION
Quote "Looking forward to see it humiliate Armorman" wish I could be there for this!! poke poke

Satain
09-09-2013, 10:21 AM
Well Boys, we got the range and target now, so let's make more use of it.....

It was a great time, and thank you Steve for the welding. And friend Germain for assistance in set-up.

Can just see the white dot in the distance:

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l204/dmay223/DSCF1853_zps26a2698b.jpg (http://s97.photobucket.com/user/dmay223/media/DSCF1853_zps26a2698b.jpg.html)

Target is about 8ft X 10ft. 750 Amax didn't penetrate, but put a dent, and lifted enough paint to easily spot hits.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l204/dmay223/DSCF1856_zps6b27942a.jpg (http://s97.photobucket.com/user/dmay223/media/DSCF1856_zps6b27942a.jpg.html)

Not much of a group, I admit, although, in fairness, I did adjust POA a little each shot.....
And ya Tigrr.....no graduated trees behind, so ya gotta bring optics;D

Point of interest: "Strelok" ballistic program was closer to predicting what I needed than "Shooter", I gotta analyse the input into both and see whats going on......

But there we have it, the challenge is up, target won the first round, but we gotta get back there and put some more dents in him. Expect you, Steve and Sdeviation, back to put your marks on soon, and see how many others we can get on target. Looking forward to see it humiliate Armorman, once the snow flies and he's back to his winter couch-sitting job.....;D



http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l204/dmay223/DSCF1851_zps09330148.jpg (http://s97.photobucket.com/user/dmay223/media/DSCF1851_zps09330148.jpg.html)
Now that's what I call shooting in comfort ;)
As for Sir Steve dollar wise NF is the best bang per buck out there. Just make sure to send them the grain and fps and they will make the bdc for your rig. Most dealers will do this for you when buying this scope.
On a side note...
I think you 2 should also invest in some better ear protection cause those boomers really make your ears ring with those foamy ear plugs.

stevesummit
09-09-2013, 11:28 AM
Now that's what I call shooting in comfort ;)
As for Sir Steve dollar wise NF is the best bang per buck out there. Just make sure to send them the grain and fps and they will make the bdc for your rig. Most dealers will do this for you when buying this scope.
On a side note...
I think you 2 should also invest in some better ear protection cause those boomers really make your ears ring with those foamy ear plugs.

Actually the brake on the cheytac isn't bad at all , I think the one I have on my lapua has more of a crack to it then the big chubby that's on the chey . As for glass I have settled on the beast from niteforce! It seems to offer the best of both worlds for this build! Now to get the pennies together to buy it lol , that's the hard part to get by the wife for sure !!!!!

Tezcatlipoca
09-09-2013, 08:43 PM
I think you 2 should also invest in some better ear protection cause those boomers really make your ears ring with those foamy ear plugs.

that depends on your foamies, the ones in my bag have a higher NRR rating than my custom moulds. properly used they can block a lot of noise.

Anyway, nice shooting, and congrats Dmay. I would love to hit that kind of range, but I need some practice and a way better rig for that.

stevesummit
09-10-2013, 07:14 AM
I use lazerlites foamies and they are good for 32-33 db drop ! I don't find the rifles overly loud when using them .

sdeviation
09-10-2013, 12:22 PM
Steve
the BEAST is first focal plane is it not???
the ATACR (sp) is second focal and priced cheeper but doesnt have the fancy gadjets...

stevesummit
09-10-2013, 12:33 PM
Yes it is ffp but I have been reading up on the Horus retical and it comes with a version of it so it looks kinda interesting

stevesummit
09-12-2013, 04:45 PM
Well I have ordered a ken Ferrell rail for the chey tac ! 60 moa set up for the Barnard action ( first one they have done ) , sent them the spacing on everything and cost was 180$+ shipping . So pretty cheap in the long run since its a one off .

tigrr
09-24-2013, 08:03 PM
60 MOA!! That thing is going to look like a ramp. Post pics when you get it k.
Time to go load some 45/70 hunting ammo. 500 gr FP pill in front of 37 grains of IMR 4064, ouch nothing but a steel butt plate on the H&R Buffalo Classic.

Armorman
10-04-2013, 11:32 PM
Steve, I guess this info is a little late but did you look into the Barrett ExRings? I have no clue on their quality or how well they work but the concept appears interesting:

http://barrett.net/optics/exrings

stevesummit
10-05-2013, 06:15 AM
Those rings would have been a good option ,

Dmay
10-30-2013, 07:08 AM
UPDATE


Well, we took another run at that "mile ana half", and while Steve will tell his own story, I'd like to congratulate him on getting there. With his 60 minute base, and a NF NXS bolted on, he got the 408 reaching out where it should. I find it a disturbing symptom of how this game has gotten out of hand that we moved "in" to a one-mile target to confirm zero on a newly mounted scope........Thanks for an enjoyable afternoon Steve and Ryan.

stevesummit
10-30-2013, 08:29 AM
And I thank you for the chance at shooting on your range during a work day! Lol and yes me and Ryan were talking about the fact we dropped down to 1700 for a zero to confirm the numbers lol. Hughie your gonna have to get yours all dialed up and running top notch now to keep up !!!!! And yes it was confirmed hits at 2600 yds maybe not as clean as we would have liked but they did make the trip and took some paint with them !!

tigrr
10-30-2013, 09:01 AM
Not as clean, hmm. They didn't bounce and hit sidways??
Pics?
Don't you worry Steve I'll walk up to the 2500 yard target and shoot it just to put a mark on it!! Presently only enough elevation for 2200 yards. Need 20 or 30 more for 2500. The lapua 250 scenars are performing well in this rifle. Powder shortage is hurting me( not as much as the mrs did when the cc bill came in though). Soon. I need to hang a target in the mountain side before too long, so I can go shoot at it with the sled.
Going to chase some moose/deer/bear now.

stevesummit
10-30-2013, 09:34 AM
When I say not as clean as I would have like. I mean that I was bottomed out and using all the retical and hold over ! I didn't have a solid aim point so it's not really a group just hits on target !

df1eye
10-30-2013, 06:16 PM
What's next, 3000M or try and tighten up the grouping?

stevesummit
10-30-2013, 06:27 PM
More elevation. So it looks like an atacr is coming my way And redo load development over a chrony to see again how fast they are moving

tigrr
10-30-2013, 09:03 PM
Good times Steve. Noticed the last outing how at max zoom I could see my heart beat in the reticle bounce on the 1500 yd target. Wonder how far apart the 2 points will be at 2500. SMILE LIG

Armorman
10-31-2013, 07:11 PM
Lack of elevation you say! Here's a fix for you guys.

http://www.arcanglesolutions.com/ARC-RIZER_2.html

Armorman
10-31-2013, 07:23 PM
Up to 100 moa extra adjustment on top of your 0 or 20 or 40 or 60 moa scope rail! You'll need a higher cheek piece though. I'd be interested in knowing how robust or solid of a mount it is.

Steve and Hugh, buy a couple and if they work then I'll order one…hahaha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC5C23MfgkA

stevesummit
10-31-2013, 07:58 PM
That's a cool fix really I could have used that the other day for sure!!

Armorman
10-31-2013, 08:11 PM
Perhaps a guy should snoop around snipershide to see if someone has any experience with one of these.....

stevesummit
10-31-2013, 08:14 PM
Even with the nsx and a 60 moa rail I was short on elevation ! Mind you once I figure out why they are going so slow and get them up to speed that will change things lots

Dmay
11-01-2013, 05:34 AM
There's a few of those deals around, Ivey adjustable rings do the same job, and I think they're more robust. But I wonder too, how solid are they?....Are they gonna hold absolute zero after the 50 bangs 'em around for a while? If I wanna go further, I'm going to have to do something, either custom 80 minute base, or try something like that.....