STATT timelines?

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07-31-2014, 08:16 PM
billyedtimmy

STATT timelines?

My apologies if this is topic posted elsewhere, but I wanted to pose a couple of questions regarding process and timelines for obtaining a short-term-authorization-to-transport.

For a bit of background, I just purchased my first restricted firearm. As such, the dealer submitted the registration and STATT for me. About a week later, I received a confirmation of receipt for the transfer of registration from the dealer to me for the firearm from the RCMP.

Considering that I haven't yet obtained the STATT to take it home, I found this rather odd (e.g., what if my STATT is denied - it IS afterall, an application, which in itself implies the possibility - then I have to somehow figure out how to transfer the registration for the firearm that I'm unable to transport home back to the dealer. How goofy is this?!).

Question 1: Why do they even bother to perform the registration transfer when the STATT hasn't gone through? This seems to be putting the cart before the horse.

Question 2: How long does it take for the STATT to go through? I'm at the 2 week post-purchase mark as of yesterday, which is twice as long as it took to get my LTATT! (WTF?!) :confused:

In the meantime, I'm left empathizing with Homer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIpLd0WQKCY
07-31-2014, 10:19 PM
6MT

The STATT is issued out of Miramishi. The registration certificate is issued out of Ottawa. The STATT is only issued to get your firearm to your home from the post office or store. That's it. The transfer is issued to get a new registration certificate to the new owner.

If you have proof of membership to a certified range, your STATT ,and the LTATT for that matter, will be issued almost immediately. You can receive them by fax or e-mail and copy it to use to get your firearm home.

So, when you get your ATT's, you can take it home. You cannot take it to use at a range until you receive your registration certificate. These can take up to three weeks to get because it is issued from Ottawa.

So, when you receive the original certificate, you can then legally take your firearm to a range to shoot.

It sucks......welcome to Canadian firearms regulations.
08-01-2014, 06:42 PM
billyedtimmy

Alrightty, I got it figured out (and got my gun!).

Before going to pick up, I had to have:
(1) Buyers transfer form (received from RCMP in the mail)
(2) Registration (received from RCMP in the mail)

Then the seller receives:
(1) Seller transfer form (from the RCMP)

THEN, I apply for and receive:
(1) STATT (short-term authorization to transport).

After killing those rainforests, I was able to pick up the new firearm.

Looking forward to hitting the range tomorrow (yes, I have my LTATT already)!
10-13-2014, 05:15 PM
greywolf67nt

When I got my restricted all I had to do was get the reference number from the dealer, call the CFO, wait on hold for half an hour, talk to a nice lady for 5 minutes and receive the transfer certificate and STATT by email literally 2 minutes later.
I asked if that's all I needed to take it home and she said yes. I would have to wait for the original registration from Ottawa before taking it to the range with the LTATT that I got at the same time as my ST.
10-13-2014, 05:40 PM
Drache

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT

You cannot take it to use at a range until you receive your registration certificate.

According to the BC CFO the "Transfer Notification" is fine enough until the Registration Certificate arrives.

Yes I know the ATT states "The holder must be in possession of the registration certificate" but if that was set in stone, then you wouldn't even be able to take the gun home from the store until the certificate was mailed to you now would you?
10-14-2014, 06:52 AM
awndray

I would really like for everybody to stop using the terms and acronyms for short-term and long-term ATT's. They don't exist. It's just ATT.
10-14-2014, 06:56 AM
Drache

Quote:

Originally Posted by awndray

I would really like for everybody to stop using the terms and acronyms for short-term and long-term ATT's. They don't exist. It's just ATT.

There is a difference between them though until the law is changed....
10-14-2014, 07:02 AM
awndray

There are no "them". An ATT is an ATT is an ATT. The dates, times and locations on each copy may be different, but there is no such thing as a document titled STATT or LTATT.
10-14-2014, 07:12 AM
Drache

Quote:

Originally Posted by awndray

There are no "them". An ATT is an ATT is an ATT. The dates, times and locations on each copy may be different, but there is no such thing as a document titled STATT or LTATT.

The documents themselves might not say "Short Term" or "Long Term" but the Government uses those terms. I have to differentiate between two different "types" of ATT since my "LTATT" does not allow me to take a gun home from the store I bought it in and thus have to ask for a "STATT" to do so.
10-14-2014, 11:14 AM
blacksmithden

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drache

According to the BC CFO the "Transfer Notification" is fine enough until the Registration Certificate arrives.

Yes I know the ATT states "The holder must be in possession of the registration certificate" but if that was set in stone, then you wouldn't even be able to take the gun home from the store until the certificate was mailed to you now would you?

According to the CFC, and yes, I specifically asked this exact question, 'He can take the firearm home and store it safely there until the registration arrives in the mail. He cant take it to the range until he has it.'
10-14-2014, 11:29 AM
Drache

Quote:

Originally Posted by blacksmithden

According to the CFC, and yes, I specifically asked this exact question, 'He can take the firearm home and store it safely there until the registration arrives in the mail. He cant take it to the range until he has it.'

Yes I've asked the same question to the ladies at the CFC and got the same answer (They even told me I couldn't pick the gun up from the store without my Reg Cert). The BC CFO told me different.
10-17-2014, 04:53 AM
awndray

I sold a restricted yesterday. The buyer got his ATT within 4 hours; valid for a month, for home pick up in Ontario. Amazing!
10-17-2014, 08:04 AM
Drache

Quote:

Originally Posted by awndray

I sold a restricted yesterday. The buyer got his ATT within 4 hours; valid for a month, for home pick up in Ontario. Amazing!

I wish BC was like that :(

Bought another restricted. My "long term" ATT still isn't good enough to take the gun home and had to apply for a one day ATT that was valid from the store to my home.
10-19-2014, 06:24 AM
tna0066

This short term/long term is such bs. I bought another handgun the other day, waiting on the the transfer/STATT. I already have a LTATT for other pistol. The LGS i bought from is also an indoor shooting range. I can drive there, shoot my 1st pistol, look at new one and go home, but can't bring new one home with me cause i am unsafe due to not being given my special piece of paper from WYATT and his squad of minions....be done with these completely. Buy gun, transfer to my name and let me take it home once done. No more of this STATT BS!!!!
10-19-2014, 10:43 AM
Edenchef

Quote:

Originally Posted by tna0066

This short term/long term is such bs. I bought another handgun the other day, waiting on the the transfer/STATT. I already have a LTATT for other pistol. The LGS i bought from is also an indoor shooting range. I can drive there, shoot my 1st pistol, look at new one and go home, but can't bring new one home with me cause i am unsafe due to not being given my special piece of paper from WYATT and his squad of minions....be done with these completely. Buy gun, transfer to my name and let me take it home once done. No more of this STATT BS!!!!

That is very interesting. I just purchased a pistol from a friend, who belongs to the same club as I do. Talked to Miramichi and got the registration transfered, they also issued a one day STATT, to allow me to take it from his home to mine. Here's where it gets fun....they transferred me to the Alberta CFO, so I could get the LTATT. The Alberta CFO told me that the LTATT that I already have allows me to transport ANY restricted firearms to any place listed on the permit. Enen firearms that I do not own, but have borrowed. Since my friend has an LTATT and we both shoot at the same range; we both have a common destination on our LTATT's. I asked them if we could just meet at the range and do the handover. In typical mindless bureaucratic doublespeak she initially said of course not. I asked why? "Well he doesn't own the pistol anymore". I answered." So how is that different from if he borrows it"? Answer "Well it just is". (Facepalm)

Cheers!