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Would your system allow for any requirement that firearms ownership require any level of proven proficiency? It also seems to rely heavily on the court system, particularly Judges, to act very quickly.. which in my experience is the exact opposite of how the judicial system operates. How would...

That, overlaid with the rate of firearms ownership on Canada. Marks for when mandated training was req'd as well would be nice. A 2nd overlay that showed the total number of guns owned could be interesting as well. Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk

Yeah, and I can't miss the SA gun show this weekend, either.

Well now what the heck are we supposed to do?? Range day? :D

Agreed; I was just trying to find numbers that showed that, but I value my sanity enough to not look too long. Leave that to people who are better at at (Paging Dr. RangeBob) I didn't mean to imply their whining would do any good, I just hate listening to stupidity. There is / was. I signed...

I spent some time looking for stats on firearms accidents vs rate of ownership in Canada. My hypothesis is that maybe accidents aren't climbing at the same rate as ownership, which may support the idea that safety training may be helpful. Perhaps. Maybe. Of course no one reports "I would have...

Agreed. My only thought with this as a property right issue would be that the mandatory training or proven competency would be in the honor of protecting our other rights from those who would do harm, accidentally or intentionally, with firearms if left unchecked. Seems to me though that as...

Admittedly I struggle with this a little. The collecting of airplanes or cars wouldn't likely be abused in the way a "fake" and otherwise "legal" firearms collection could be. 9/11 not withstanding, it's pretty unlikely people would buy a plane as part of a collection without proper licensing...

Well, given that we already have mandatory training and licensing to operate an airplane, yes. But to to simply own (as a collector, or the "mobility van" example), no. I thought we excluded basic ownership earlier (If you're going to collect firearms with no intent to use them, you should...

I might be a little s l o w this morning.. silly employment getting in the way of thought processes. Thinking is good. :) As I said at the beginning, it's been a tad difficult to get a good thought process going given work interruptions, so, expect the following to be worded fairly loosely...

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Oh, I'm good with the conversation. I like to challenge my beliefs to either debunk or reinforce them. That said, I'll be out for a bit, so - probably not back to this till tomorrow. And call me Dan; no need to be so formal here. :)

No, I didn't specify that it should be limited to important and effective; only you said that. I believe that the level of danger it presents should also be a factor. We aren't required to know the law, it's just in our best interest. And to know it would require being taught it. I'll bet...

We are also glossing over another aspect of firearm training that is of equal importance to safe handling - and that is understanding the laws. Of course with our current laws that's damn near impossible..

As I said, it's the people who think they don't need to read the instructions that are the most dangerous. "I know what I'm doing" isn't proof of competency. Respectfully disagree, largely because you label it coercive. As to freedom value, I have the right to not be shot accidentally by...

As would the criminal. If training is effective, shouldn't it be mandatory? How is it coercive? And thus enforcing my point that it should be mandatory. We understand it's important, and we need to ensure everyone understands that before they handle a loaded firearm for the first time...

I would think the woman in the earlier example (the one with the black eye who picks up a gun on her way home) would be more prone to accidents, because before that moment she has never handled a firearm at all and has only purchased it with the idea of self defense because she is afraid. So...

If I were to collect firearms or automobiles, I would want appropriate licensing to operate them; personally, I see little value in safe / trailer queen collections. As a pure sport shooter (I don't hunt, and not for any reason other than I just don't - I support hunters 100%), really my...

Yeah, that's pretty messed up.

FALover gave an example where his brother owns/possesses/insures/and licenses a mobility van, even though he is incapable of driving it. The van is operated, to his benefit, by someone licensed to do so. That is a completely valid situation. We aren't talking here about people simply collecting...