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    Browning an ass to small gunstores

    So talking to a friend of mine who started up a gunstore recently when a man came into the store looking for a Browning. He was told the store does not stock Browning rifles. When I asked why later, this is what he told me.

    He had phoned up Browning and told them he wanted to stock Browning Rifles. Browning told him he could, but there were stipulations. First off, the minimum order is $25,000. Ok he could swing that. The second stipulation was that he could not place an order with Browning. Browning said THEY would ship him whatever THEY thought he needed whenever THEY thought he needed it. This included rifles, shirts, hats, cups, and even safes. So for your $25,000 only 1/4 of that might be rifles, the rest in other products. You just never knew from one day to the next.

    He tried to tell them that he not only had a small store, but did not want stuff that he had to try and compete with Canadian Tire for, who could sell it a lot cheaper. He also told them things like large safes don't sell well in small towns like this and would take up a lot of floor space. He was simply told, it's their way or the highway.

    He could have gone through a supplier rather than straight from Browning but he wanted the prices to be the lowest so he could sell low. And after what Browning said to him he's sadly boycotting bringing in any Browning products.

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    That's happened to a lot of small stores. Browning can be complete dicks and it's why you don't see many new hi powers sitting in display cases
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    Take it from someone who's been through the "becoming a dealer" mill. It's not just Browning. There's more politics in getting firearms and other products from a distributor to the shelf than there is in Ottawa and Washington combined. Manufacturers and distributors can be complete a--holes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blacksmithden View Post
    Take it from someone who's been through the "becoming a dealer" mill. It's not just Browning. There's more politics in getting firearms and other products from a distributor to the shelf than there is in Ottawa and Washington combined. Manufacturers and distributors can be complete a--holes.
    Are they forcing potential dealers to carry an entire product line rather than select products that fit their projected buyer profiles?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camo tung View Post
    Are they forcing potential dealers to carry an entire product line rather than select products that fit their projected buyer profiles?
    With us, it was more the fact that we were too small....you don't meet our criteria....and they didn't want to be bothered with us at all. There's one distributor here in Canada that, no matter how big we may get someday, they will never see a dime of our money as long as I have anything to say about it. Whatever...if my money isn't good enough for them, then I'll take it elsewhere....and we did. Jon and I haven't had the time to put into the business for the past while...something I hope to change over the winter. We'll probably be a decade before we're where we want to be.....but when that day comes, there are certain products that we just won't be carrying under any circumstances because of who the distributor is here in Canada. Hell.....I had one place in the US that I offered to pay for a $10k of one type of magazine right up front...shut up and take my money.....did all the import/export paperwork for them....chased them every week for probably 3 months......and finally I gave up. That was 2 or 3 years ago. They are on my list of "never deal with" vendors now too. I don't consider it "helping out a little guy" when I'm willing to pay for an order in advance...they agree to everything.....I give them a credit card number to bill it to......then they just disappear....I keep trying to keep in touch.....nothing. When I have $1M to throw around, it won't be going to them for any reason. Fortunately, we have made other contacts in the industry that have turned out to be very helpful and we've become friends with.

    At one time, General Motors was the largest corporation on the planet. Their attitude was to deal with them on their terms or just bugger off. Of course, that was before they were forced to declare bankruptcy.....you know....I'm just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camo tung View Post
    Are they forcing potential dealers to carry an entire product line rather than select products that fit their projected buyer profiles?
    It's not an uncommon practice, and applies to manufacturers, distributors, and ultimately dealers.

    The bigger manufacturers don't have the flexibility to quickly ramp up or ramp down production, so they do projections and work from there.
    Distributors have to take a wide variety of the manufacturers line up to get access to the items that fly.
    Dealers have to order the bread and butter items to get access to the meat and potatoes.

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    It doesn't surprise me. Browning is no longer about building their name with quality. It's about whoring themselves out in anyway they can to make money. Ask people who have a Browning logo on their vehicle what kind of Browning gun they shoot or what they like to hunt most. 70% of them will have no idea it's a hunting/shooting logo.

    Ever since Browning got out of building good guns and hunting gear and began pandering to the guido wanna-be redneck crowd by sticking their logo on everything from floor mats to air fresheners to bathroom accessories I swore I will never buy another Browning product.

    I have a set of Browning camo that I keep only because it's actually does it's job. Browning is the wal-mart of the shooting/hunting world. Kind of like Duck Dynasty. That crap is everywhere now and I won't watch the show. I was watching it before it became cool to watch...
    I'd rather make a difference than a dollar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingHigh View Post
    It doesn't surprise me. Browning is no longer about building their name with quality. It's about whoring themselves out in anyway they can to make money. Ask people who have a Browning logo on their vehicle what kind of Browning gun they shoot or what they like to hunt most. 70% of them will have no idea it's a hunting/shooting logo.
    I have a browning shirt, only because I have a browning and it features a dog that looks like my own. Take my brother though, 4 browning decals on his truck and not a single browning in the safe

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingHigh View Post
    Ever since Browning got out of building good guns
    I wouldn't really say that. I really do like my Browning Xbolt Varmint Stainless. It is a very nice firearm with a trigger to kill for! I do like the 30 degree bolt as well. Bolt knob is a little small for my tests but oh well.


    Simply put, this store has no problems getting other brands. Hell Savage was HAPPY that another gun store wanted to sell their product.

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    So because they created an easily recognized and likable logo, they're the devil?
    I like their rifles. The fact people like their logo means extremely little to me. They'd be stupid not to capitalize on it.

    I have to wonder about CCI & Hornady, as their products aren't common in smaller shops either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lone-wolf View Post
    I have to wonder about CCI & Hornady, as their products aren't common in smaller shops either.
    Those are a staple of any gunshop around here, no matter how small.

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