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    Magazine Laws in Canada

    Well, this is by no means a cut and dried subject, but its one that keeps coming up... so I've devised a series of questions to work through to help you identify what the limit of a particular magazine is, along with some examples. Keep in mind that these are LEGAL limits. Limits for hunting and competition can vary, so check your local regulations.

    1. Is the magazine designed, marketed, or intended for use in a pistol?

    If YES, your magazine has a limit of 10 rounds, whether for rimfire or centerfire cartridges. The exception here is putting one kind of ammunition in a magazine intended for another. For example, putting 9mm Luger into a magazine built for .40 S&W will allow you to exceed the 10 round limit, but the magazine must still only physically hold 10 rounds of .40 S&W.

    If NO proceed to question 2. Since its not a pistol, it must be a rifle or a shotgun.

    2. Is the magazine designed, marketed, or intended for use in a rimfire firearm?

    If YES, your magazine does not have a capacity limit, unless that magazine was also designed to be compatible with a similar pistol. This is the case with the M&P 22 rifle/pistol mags. They are marketed as interchangable, and therefore are always subject to the 10 round limit. However, Butler Creek magazines are compatible with both the 10/22 rifle and charger pistol, but because they are sold expressly for the rifle only, they do not have a capacity limit.

    If NO proceed to question 3. Since it isn't a rimfire, it must be a centerfire.

    3. Is the magazine designed, marketed, or intended for use in a semi-automatic firearm?

    If YES, your magazine is limited to 5 rounds. The exception is the M1 Garand, which holds 8 rounds in an en bloc clip. The use of pistol magazines in a rifle or shotgun is not regulated or controlled. For instance, the LAR pistol mags will fit in most ARs, making it legal to have a 10 round magazine. But you cannot have a PMAG pinned at 10 and say its for your pistol. LAR magazines are specifically labelled from the manufacturer as being for use in the pistol only. If you paint over the notice, you better be prepared to fight it in court, because you will likely be charged with possession of a prohibited device.

    If NO, your magazine does not have a capacity limit. However, if your firearm is designed or marketed to be compatible with AR mags for example, the magazine must be limited to 5 rounds. Remington makes a pump action rifle like this, and Mossberg makes a bolt action. The factory mags are pinned in these cases. However, your AIA Enfield magazines will fit and function in a Norinco M14, making it legal to have 10 rounds. Again, these mags are clearly identified for their specific purpose.

    Update: The capacity of the magazine not only applies to the firearm it was designed for, but also for the caliber that it was designed for. One notable example of this is the .50 Beowulf AR magazine. A 5 round .50BW magazine will actually hold 13 to 16 rounds of .223, depending on the location of the rivet, all without breaking a single law.

    So there you have it. Magazine capacities in a nutshell. There are more exceptions and limitations than I've included here. As well, the information in the post above may not be up to date when accessed. Questar, one of the original importers of LAR mags, has some good information on their site: https://shopquestar.com/shopping65/s...e=Mag%20Ruling

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    Maximum Permitted Magazine Capacity

    Background

    The maximum capacity of a cartridge magazine is set out in Part 4 of the Regulations Prescribing Certain Firearms and other Weapons, Components and Parts of Weapons, Accessories, Cartridge Magazines, Ammunition and Projectiles as Prohibited or Restricted. The Regulations prescribe “prohibited devices”, and a magazine that has a capacity which exceeds the maximum permitted capacity is a prohibited device. Businesses can be in possession of prohibited devices if appropriately licensed. However, individuals may not possess prohibited devices.


    The magazine regulations have been in force since 1993. However, in recent years, new cartridge magazines have been introduced which have resulted in novel situations as it concerns the application of the Regulations. There has been no change to the Regulations. Nonetheless, the application of the existing Regulations to a few new products has given the appearance of a change in the law. This has been particularly evident in the case of cartridge magazines designed or manufactured for more than one type of firearm.

    Purpose

    The purpose of this bulletin is to provide greater clarity on the maximum permitted capacity of cartridge magazines designed or manufactured for use in more than one kind of firearm. Note that the maximum permitted capacity of a magazine is determined by the physical characteristics of the firearm it is designed or manufactured for and the type of ammunition for which it is designed. The maximum permitted capacity of the magazine does not depend on the classification of the firearm, nor does the magazine capacity influence the classification of the firearm.

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    1. Magazines designed or manufactured for both rimfire calibre rifles and handguns

    Magazines designed to contain rimfire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a rifle do not have a regulated capacity. However, magazines designed to contain rimfire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a semiautomatic handgun are limited to 10 cartridges. Magazines designed or manufactured for use in both rifles and semiautomatic handguns are subject to the handgun limit of 10 cartridges.

    Example:
    Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 rifle and 15-22P pistol chambered for 22LR caliber:
    • the 10 round magazine is unregulated
    • the 25 round magazine is a prohibited device


    2. Magazines designed or manufactured for both centrefire calibre rifles and handguns

    Magazines designed to contain centrefire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a semiautomatic rifle are limited to five cartridges. However, magazines designed to contain centrefire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a semiautomatic handgun are limited to 10 cartridges. Magazines designed or manufactured for use in both semiautomatic rifles and semiautomatic handguns are subject to the limit of five cartridges.

    Example:
    Hi-Point rifle and handgun chambered for 9mm Luger caliber:
    • magazine capacities over five rounds are prohibited.

    3. Magazines designed or manufactured for both centrefire calibre semiautomatic rifles and other (non-semiautomatic) rifles

    Magazines designed to contain centrefire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a semiautomatic rifle are limited to five cartridges. However, magazines designed to contain centrefire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a rifle other than a semiautomatic or automatic rifle, do not have a regulated capacity. Magazines that are designed or manufactured for use in both semiautomatic rifles and other (non-semiautomatic) rifles are subject to the semiautomatic rifle limit of five cartridges.

    Example:
    Remington model 7615 pump action rifle chambered for 223 Remington caliber:
    • the 10 round magazine is prohibited
    • the five round magazine is unregulated

    4. Magazines designed for one firearm but used in a different firearm

    The maximum permitted capacity of a magazine is determined by the kind of firearm it is designed or manufactured for use in and not the kind of firearm it might actually be used in. As a consequence, the maximum permitted capacity remains the same regardless of which firearm it might be used in.

    Example:
    The Marlin model 45 (Camp Carbine) rifle chambered for 45 Auto caliber uses magazines designed and manufactured for the Colt 1911 handgun, therefore the seven round and eight round capacities are permitted. A similar example is the 10 round capacity magazine for the Rock River Arms LAR-15 pistol, regardless of the kind of firearm it is actually used in.

    5. Magazines for semiautomatic handguns which contain more than ten (10) rounds of a different calibre

    Magazines designed to contain centrefire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a semiautomatic handgun, are limited to 10 cartridges. The capacity is measured by the kind of cartridge the magazine was designed to contain. In some cases the magazine will be capable of containing more than 10 rounds of a different caliber; however that is not relevant in the determination of the maximum permitted capacity.

    Example:
    Heckler and Koch P7 pistol chambered for 9mm Luger caliber:
    The magazine designed for the 40 S&W calibre variant of the pistol will hold 13 cartridges of 9mm Luger calibre and function in the 9mm Luger calibre P7 pistol. This is permissible as the maximum permitted capacity of the 40 S&W calibre magazine must be measured by the number of 40 S&W calibre cartridges it is capable of holding, which is 10 such cartridges in the case of the HK P7 pistol magazine.

    For more information, please contact the RCMP Canadian Firearms Program
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    Good thread to have thanks JustBen. The subject has been touched on a little in some other threads but we need a dedicated thread for sure. Also - here is the link to the RCMP ruling on the matter - good to print of a copy to keep with ones records.

    http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/b...323-72-eng.htm

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    Good stuff, sticky please. Also Ben what's the rules on belt fed semis
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckingFastard View Post
    Good stuff, sticky please. Also Ben what's the rules on belt fed semis
    Not a clue! I know that a rimfire rifle shouldn't have a limit (ie Lakeside Razorback), but that's about all. Belt fed semis aren't that common in this country, I'd be interested to know how the law handles them.

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    Stuck very nice write up
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    I own an M1 Garand and wanted to use if for hunting but i was worried that the magazine capacity limit would be different like for shot guns that are only allowed 3 shots. Is there a similar regulation on rifle magazines or would i be able to hunt with the M1 Garand without any worries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cep123 View Post
    I own an M1 Garand and wanted to use if for hunting but i was worried that the magazine capacity limit would be different like for shot guns that are only allowed 3 shots. Is there a similar regulation on rifle magazines or would i be able to hunt with the M1 Garand without any worries?
    With the exception of migratory birds, hunting magazine capacities are a provincial issue. You would have to consult your provincial hunting regulations.

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    as far as belt feds, if the belt is of a design predating 1950, no limit, if newer, then 5 rnd limit. for example, mg34, browning 1919 with cloth belts, and or 1919 links, and ma deuce all no limits, anything using m60 style links are 5 rnd limit. thats what I have been told anyway.
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    1945 not 1950

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    Quote Originally Posted by cep123 View Post
    I own an M1 Garand and wanted to use if for hunting but i was worried that the magazine capacity limit would be different like for shot guns that are only allowed 3 shots. Is there a similar regulation on rifle magazines or would i be able to hunt with the M1 Garand without any worries?
    In Ontario we are (in every case) expected to never have more than 3 rounds in our magazine and chamber combined. If a firearm is unable to make that physical limitation, it is not legal to hunt with. From a phone call to the MNR in Ontario

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