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    The Gunsmithing Moderator blacksmithden's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark-II View Post
    "When the yeast eats sugar, it pees out alcohol, but it also farts out carbon dioxide."

    I just imagined you at the front of a high school chemistry class
    So simple a university student could understand it.

    What are the laws on distilling spirits for personal use ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blacksmithden View Post
    What are the laws on distilling spirits for personal use ?
    Have at 'er, don't sell it.
    Don't blame me, I didn't vote for that clown. Oct 20, '15

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacksmithden View Post
    So simple a university student could understand it.
    Well.....provided we're not talking liberal arts major.....
    Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rory McCanuck View Post
    Have at 'er, don't sell it.
    Not really. Distilling alcohol for personal consumption is illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prairie Dog View Post
    What's it take to get started in home brewing? How long does it take to get good at it?

    Is it worth it to make your own beer and wine or is it more about a custom taste and personal satisfaction?

    Rory, over to you.
    I guess I should actually answer the questions, rather than go off on bleary eyed, sleep deprived tangents.

    You need:
    A primary fermenter. A 6gallon food grade plastic pail with a spigot or a siphon tube ~$20
    You could use a carboy, but you'll need an airlock($3) and rubber bung($4)
    A long spoon for stirring, I use a Coleman stainless one from Walmart on clearance $3
    Some clear plastic hose $3
    Something to put it in, bottles or keg.
    If bottling using beer bottles, you'll need caps ($22/1000) and a capper($19-50).
    Oxi-san cleaner to sanitise everything ~$8
    Javex bleach works well to sterilise everything, but I just find it much easier to clean everything well when done, and store it clean rather than let things grow.

    Nice things to have:
    Bottle filler, $5. A tube with a valve at the bottom. When the tube hits the bottom of the bottle, it lifts the valve, goodness pours out.
    Hydrometer $10-20. Reads how much sugar was in the water, and how much turned to alcohol.
    A floating thermometer $10 so you don't have things too hot when you add your yeast.


    Ingredients:
    Beer kit, $20
    1+kg sugar $3-7
    Water $7-10 if you use distilled. I did, then went to tap water. Fill carboys and let sit for a couple days and the chlorine evaporates out. Our water is hard, but it makes nice beer. Your water, you'll have to experiment.

    So, for ~$30 and maybe 3 hours of work, I get 6 gallons or so of beer.
    The kits say 66 bottles, but I thin it out a little more.
    I'm out of pocket about $5 for a dozen beer; I don't feel guilty drinking a dozen.

    The first was drinkable, eveything since has been very good.
    It spoils you. If I have a beer when I go out, it needs to be something fancy.
    Drinking a Bud or Blue tastes like...beer flavoured water?

    Looch is into the right from grain type beers, he can better tell you what he can do to tailor a really nice beer.
    Think of my methods as reloading with a dipper and Lee whack a mole Loader.
    Looch is using Nosler Custom brass, neck turning, measuring with a ChargeMaster and seating with Redding Competition dies in a Co-Ax press.
    Both go bang, but one is certainly more refined than the other.
    Don't blame me, I didn't vote for that clown. Oct 20, '15

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    I keg my beer - wash one container vs 5 1/2 dozen bottles.

    Also - carbonated without sediment.

    Kegged wine is a fun surprise for the unsuspecting, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rory McCanuck View Post
    I guess I should actually answer the questions, rather than go off on bleary eyed, sleep deprived tangents.


    Looch is into ...
    Looch is using ...
    ...one is certainly more refined than the other.
    Don't go painting me with that brush - I'm as unwashed as the next guy.

    My first brew actually came as a hermetically sealed bag of wort. All I did was pour it into a sterilized fermenter and pitched the yeast packet.

    Going all-grain is nice because it's flippin' cheap and unused ingredients store better. A 50lb bag of 2-row at full retail costs $45. I can get 4 5.5 gallon batches out of that (if I was inclined to make very boring, light coloured ales). That's somewhere around 200+ bottles. Dry yeast is about $2 per batch. Hops can be pricey but I'm not one to make crazy IPA's. Plus that crap grows like weeds - I grow my own with little effort.

    One thing though - lagers are a different story. They take a lot longer to ferment and you need to keep the temperature in the high 30's low 40's (Fahrenheit).

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    Quote Originally Posted by looch View Post

    One thing though - lagers are a different story. They take a lot longer to ferment and you need to keep the temperature in the high 30's low 40's (Fahrenheit).
    I was wondering about that. Lagers are my favorite type of beer. If I were to dabble in making beer, it would definitely be lagers.
    I'd rather make a difference than a dollar.

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    We're brewing wine at home. Going to start making the four batches for our upcoming wedding!


    Even have the fancy filter pump, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by looch View Post
    Not really. Distilling alcohol for personal consumption is illegal.
    Sorry....I hate it when people do this...but....got a link to the actual law that says you can't ? I've never had a really confirmed answer to this question.
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