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    NDP leadership debate brings 2 new candidates to the race

    NDP leadership debate brings 2 new candidates to the race

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    Two new candidates in the NDP leadership race wasted no time going toe-to-toe in their first appearance together Sunday at a leadership debate in Sudbury, Ont.

    Pat Stogran, who acquired a reputation for being outspoken as the former federal veterans ombudsman, challenged Ontario politician Jagmeet Singh after he suggested "an act of love" is required to connect with Canadian voters.

    "I think that what it takes … to understand the realities of small and rural communities or communities that are isolated, it takes an act of love to understand that we are all in this together," Singh said.

    "That our struggles are all united and the strength of Canada is when we understand we do far better when we are united."

    "Love isn't enough," Stogran said. "What's your answer to it? How are you going to bring the voice of these people to Ottawa to speak up?"

    Singh and Stogran are now among six official candidates looking to take over the party's top job in October — a decision set to be made by party members who will be required to rank their choices.

    Manitoba MP Niki Ashton, Ontario MP Charlie Angus, Quebec MP Guy Caron and B.C. MP Peter Julian are also in the running.


    The bilingual debate, the third of eight scheduled, featured opening statements, open debates and short "lightning round" questions and responses.

    Opening statements addressed reconciliation with Indigenous communities, including the urgency of the current suicide crisis, as well as income inequality and sustainable use of natural resources.


    It is important to acknowledge Canadians don't trust politicians of any stripe, Angus said Sunday, adding the NDP has failed to effectively reach out to communities.

    "Let's talk to people who are feeling disconnected and ripped off," Angus said. "People who are fighting for their pensions, people who don't have access to dental care. We've got to be the party that's got their back."

    It is up to the New Democrats to show voters the party is willing to fight for them, he added.

    "I'm grateful the Conservatives got their guy," he said. "Let's get down to our job."

    Weighing in on Scheer

    NDP leadership hopefuls were asked directly Sunday about Andrew Scheer, the new leader of the Conservative party.

    For her part, Ashton said she is "very concerned" about Scheer's political agenda, pointing to Scheer's position on abortion and LGBTQ rights.

    "This is what Trump-like politics and Trump-like ideas look like in our own country," she said.

    Scheer resembles former prime minister Stephen Harper, Caron added.

    "He's not much ... different," he said. "He's playing the same base and ... we have to know exactly what that means for us and we do know because we fought those Conservatives ... in Parliament."

    Julian said Sunday the NDP must be "bold and clear" on its policy positions as it looks to its future, adding this means speaking up on solutions to tackle climate change.

    "This means stopping Mr. Trudeau's new raw bitumen pipelines," he said. "Our members want us to take a stand. I am opposed to them — period."

    Newbies say hello

    The new candidates aimed to distinguish themselves Sunday, using the debate as a platform to establish the tone for their campaigns.

    Singh vowed to address inequality and inclusion, touching on his own experience as a first-generation Canadian.

    "My parents came to Canada in the hope of a better life," he said. "I believe in a Canada where everyone has his or her own place and that no one is left behind."

    Stogran positioned himself as a political outsider, emphasizing his military record.

    During his time as veterans' ombudsman, he said he "witnessed first-hand the inefficiencies and inconsistencies" in the federal government.

    "I couldn't just retire and be happy to simply observe while well-connected people were using Canadian politics for their own purposes."


    Race gears up

    The NDP race is expected to ramp up and could draw more attention now that the year-long Conservative leadership contest is over.

    "With the B.C. election and Conservative contest behind us, our race is kicking into high gear. We have an amazingly strong field of candidates. Any one of them would be able to take on Justin Trudeau and Andrew Scheer today," said NDP National Director Robert Fox in a statement to CBC News.

    There are five other debates scheduled for the lengthy NDP race including in discussions in St. John's, Saskatoon, Victoria, Montreal and Vancouver.

    NDP members will pick a new leader in the fall through a preferential, ranked ballot system. Voting will take place online and by mail.
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    stronger NDP = weaker Liberals

    and with two new leaders in the house I think justin's easy go will come to a screeching end
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    I'd like to see one of them lay in to Nikki Ashton.
    Make her have a screechy temper-tantrum meltdown onstage.
    Where they cart her offstage on a two wheel dolly as she's all trussed up in a straightjacket.

    But yes, stronger NDP good, to take away the 'tard vote from the coexist party.
    Don't blame me, I didn't vote for that clown. Oct 20, '15

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    Anything that rids us of the imbecilic slackers choice.
    Green is the new Red

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rory McCanuck View Post
    I'd like to see one of them lay in to Nikki Ashton.
    Make her have a screechy temper-tantrum meltdown onstage.
    Where they cart her offstage on a two wheel dolly as she's all trussed up in a straightjacket.

    But yes, stronger NDP good, to take away the 'tard vote from the coexist party.
    I see you share my love of the Ashton clan.
    In spite of all of man's grandiose achievements, he owes his continued existence to six inches of topsoil and the fact that it rains.

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    "For her part, Ashton said she is "very concerned" about Scheer's political agenda, pointing to Scheer's position on abortion and LGBTQ rights."


    Says the chick who is "proud to stand in solidarity" with Palestinian terrorists who want Israel destroyed.

    She posted on her facebook "I “was honoured to stand with many in remembering the Nakba,”

    Nakda is an Arabic term mourning the reestablishment of the Jewish State of Israel.* "Nakba Day" recalls the failure of the Arab armies surrounding Israel (Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Iraq and Syria) to destroy it.

    http://www.bnaibrith.ca/b_nai_brith_...ith_terrorists

    She also caved to Black Lives matter after she used a beyonce meme and they screamed cultural appropriation

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    Quote Originally Posted by R&R Rancher View Post
    I see you share my love of the Ashton clan.
    There's a crowd pretty far removed from reality.
    Was it the father that tried to hush things up when the mother had a screechy temper-tantrum meltdown on a plane going up north?
    I forget the details, I just remember the aroma that seems to always surround them.
    Don't blame me, I didn't vote for that clown. Oct 20, '15

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    Yup. I remember the details. Flight from Winnipeg to Thompson was canceled due to weather. She had a tantrum, how dare they leave one of the elite to sit in Winnipeg due to something so insignificant as weather. Hubby came and took her away to calm down. The airline was forced to issue her a public apology.

    Don't get me started on the old man. He's a real piece of work too.
    In spite of all of man's grandiose achievements, he owes his continued existence to six inches of topsoil and the fact that it rains.

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    http://news.nationalpost.com/news/ca...dership-debate

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    Five things we learned at the third NDP leadership debate

    Despite the buzz around Jagmeet Singh’s first debate appearance, the newest leadership hopeful failed to inject much life into Sunday’s NDP leadership debate in Sudbury, Ont.

    But the contest did give the six candidates — Singh, Charlie Angus, Niki Ashton, Guy Caron, Peter Julian and Pat Stogran — their first chance to sound off on newly elected Conservative leader Andrew Scheer, which they did with relish, even trying to paint him as Canada’s Donald Trump.

    From amongst the platitudes and pleasantries, here are five things that stood out from the third NDP leadership debate.

    The expectation within the party was that Singh’s presence would stir things up at this debate compared to the first two, which featured little disagreement or excitement.

    But Singh seemed ill at ease on Sunday, and had a harder time articulating himself in French than many of the other candidates.

    The MPP from Brampton released his first policy planks on Sunday, including a promise to implement a $15 minimum wage for federal workers. He also wants to ban unpaid internships, including those offered by federally regulated employers as part of academic programs, and to require that temporary employees be made permanent after six months.

    But Singh barely touched on policy during the debate, and instead talked a lot about moving forward “with love and courage” — his campaign’s slogan.

    “I think everyone’s nervous going up there. It doesn’t matter how many times you do it,” said Jesse Brady, communications director for Angus. “I think he’s maybe a victim of his own hype in some ways.”

    All six candidates were asked their thoughts on new Conservative leader Andrew Scheer, who was elected in an upset victory over Beauce MP Maxime Bernier at the Conservative leadership convention Saturday evening.

    They were quick to paint Scheer as a far right social conservative.


    “Mr. Scheer has opposed same-sex marriages, he’s opposed the right of women to choose, he’s opposed transgender rights of Canadians. He may be a relatively young man, but he’s a dinosaur in terms of attitude,” said Julian.

    Ashton went further, claiming that Scheer’s victory shows what “Trump-like politics and Trump-like ideas look like in our country.”

    But Angus had a more nuanced answer, saying that candidates dismiss portions of the voter base at their peril.

    “Are we just going to say ‘Oh, bad Conservatives, don’t worry, they’ll come vote for us?’ Or are we going to reflect on the fact that if we have a political class in our party that doesn’t believe they have to listen to the base, then what are we offering?”

    Quebec MP Caron remained the candidate most focused on policy, pointing to a tax plan he released this week that would introduce a new tax on the profits of financial institutions, and eliminate the stock option loophole that is expected to cost the federal government $840 million this year.

    He also came down hard on the Liberals’ proposed infrastructure bank, suggesting instead that Ottawa could instead create a Crown corporation that would issue bonds at lower interest rates to raise money for infrastructure projects.

    Newcomer Stogran, the only candidate with no political history, tried his best to “put a bit of fight” into the debate on Sunday, and won most of the laughs from the audience.

    Asked about the best advice his mother gave him, the retired Canadian Forces colonel said she told him to “spit in one hand and wish in the other and see which one fills up first.”

    Asked about his first protest or strike: “I was a soldier.”

    He also committed NDP heresy by criticizing the labour movement. “There’s a lot of millennials who resent the fact that they’ve been closed out of permanent jobs because of the labour movement,” he said.

    In true NDP form, four of the six candidates agreed that King is their civil rights hero.

    Stogran, Ashton, Caron and Singh all picked the leader of the Civil Rights Movement in answer to a lightning round question, though Caron set himself apart by pointing to King’s espousal of a guaranteed income.

    Only Angus and Julian broke ranks, choosing Attawapiskat First Nation youth education advocate Shannen Koostachin and Mahatma Gandhi, respectively.
    Pew pew pew

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    And there you go. The mantra from the left for the next 2 years will be: "he's far-right" and "he's a so-con dinosaur".
    Pew pew pew

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