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    These young German soldiers, likely taken directly from the rank of a local Hitler Youth group, were captured somewhere outside of Leipzig Germany in May of 1945. The recent discovery of a 600+ negative grouping from a chaplain in the US 9th Armored Division yielded this gem of an image. The emotion and raw sadness of the war can be seen in the eyes of the boy smoking the cigarette in the left side of the photo. They can’t be more than eight or nine years old.”

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    Technician Fourth Grade Frank J. Perconte, a non-commissioned officer of Easy Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st US Airborne Division, holding a pair of Dutch Clogs and leaning on a fence along the Dommel River on Bleek Straat, Eindhoven in the Netherlands. September 1944.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTW View Post
    M4A4 Sherman tank No. 21 (possibly S/Nº. T152656 named “Bomb”) of the Sherbrooke Fusiliers Regiment ( 27th Armoured Regiment ), 2nd Canadian Armoured Brigade (Independent ) covers soldiers of the Fusiliers Mont-Royal, 2nd Canadian Infantry Division in Rue des Ursulines in Falaise, Lower Normandy. August 17, 1944.

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    Refresh my memory, was Bomb the tank that landed in the first wave on D-day and made it all the way to VE Day without getting knocked out of action? My uncle’s father was dropped in deep water off Juno beach and his Firefly sank up to the turret. Tank commander was killed by machine gun fire while they stood on the back deck trying to shelter behind what was left sticking out. They always figured the boat crew panicked when the artillery started getting too close and just opened the gate.
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    Kenny:

    The cramped tank was nicknamed "Bomb", one of four Canadian-built Sherman tanks in B Squadron of The Sherbrooke
    Fusiliers. It was among scores of Canadian tanks that dropped out of landing craft off Juno Beach on D-Day , roared
    through heaving seas to join the chaos on the beaches of Normandy.

    "Bomb" was the only Canadian tank that rolled unstopped from D-Day to VE-Day, fighting its way from the beaches of
    France through Holland and into Germany. It travelled 4000 kilometers, fired 6000 rounds and never missed a day of action.

    Here she is today:
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    Quote Originally Posted by kennymo View Post
    They always figured the boat crew panicked when the artillery started getting too close and just opened the gate.
    I thought I'd seen a movie with that, with the tanks being launched too far out and we actually see several founder, but I can't recall which one. (Saving Private Ryan I think it's mentioned, but I don't think we see it)


    Some american "sunk" statistics near the end of
    -- https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistoria...maha_beach_in/

    Juno Beach
    On the Canadian Juno Beach, The Fort Garry Horse and the 1st Hussars were equipped with DDs, but only those of the 1st Hussars could be launched. They were assigned to the 7th Canadian Brigade, at the western end of the beach. Some of the tanks were launched at 4,000 yd (3,658 m) and some at 800 yards (700 m); twenty-one out of twenty-nine tanks reached the beach. The 8th Canadian Brigade, at the eastern end of the beach, was forced to land without DD tanks because of rougher seas. They suffered heavy initial casualties, but were still able to make good progress.

    Omaha Beach
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    DD Tanks were designed to operate in waves up to 1 foot (0.3 m) high; however, on D-Day, the waves were up to 6 ft (1.8 m) high. These were much worse conditions than the tanks had been tested in and hence they were swamped. Also, the tanks of 741st Tank Battalion were launched too far out:[19] about 3 mi (4.8 km) offshore. These factors also exacerbated the inherent difficulty of steering a 35 ton "vessel" with a low freeboard.
    ...
    -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DD_tank


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    In all the descriptions I've read of the DD tank fiasco, I've never come across any report of a warning being "radioed back"
    by one of the tank carrying vessels. It is certain that one of the army officers on board a DD landing craft refused to launch
    after observing the obvious - the DD tanks could not handle waves as large as those at Omaha. They also were launched
    too far from shore- beyond what the regulations allowed, due to the danger carbon monoxide poisoning of the tank crew.
    The DD tanks were a piece of threadbare British engineering and were never tested in sea conditions like those encountered
    at Omaha, for obvious reasons. Yet they went ahead and attempted to launch them. A totally mismanaged operation, like the
    Mulberry harbors, PLUTO, the airborne drops, the air bombardment, the naval bombardment, the rocket ship bombardment,
    the obstacle clearing fiasco. In other words, every aspect of the landings were ill-conceived, mismanaged, and/or directly
    contradicted the planners' own assumptions. Operation Neptune stands out as a near perfect example of how not to plan an invasion.
    -- http://ww2f.com/threads/saving-priva...equence.43055/
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    His tank was not one of the DD’s, it was meant to be dropped closer to shore. He was with the Hussars though.

    ** found his citation for D-day:

    Trooper Runolfson was the driver of a special assault tank which was launched off the Beach at Grayesur Mer. The tank drowned and the crew took shelter on the rear deck while the enemy brought down heavy mortar and machine gun fire. The crew commander was wounded and washed overboard. Tpr. Runolfson, without regard for his own safety, went after the crew commander and tried to save him, but was unsuccessful due to the rough sea. After two hours in the water he was able to get ashore. He then picked up a German rifle with ammunition, and although suffering from the effects of immersion, fought his way forward with the leading elements of the infantry until he was able to rejoin his unit. Whilst under fire, Tpr. Runolfson showed a spirit of self-sacrifice and determination of the highest order.
    That was the first of four tanks he lost before the end of the war. The other three fell victim to a mine, a shell that penetrated the tank and lodged directly behind his driver’s seat, and a hand grenade tossed into an open hatch. The last one killed his entire crew, but only blew him out the driver’s hatch as he had the seat elevated and his head out when it happened.
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