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    Even Noam Chomsky says Antifa is just a bunch of dopes

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    Progressive academic Noam Chomsky says the American left ought to be careful attempting to pass the Antifa group off as a noble movement against hate, intolerance and fascism in the U.S.

    Antifa, the professor told The Washington Examiner, is not that unlike the white nationalist/Nazi groups they claim to oppose. He added that the fire-with-fire approach the leftist group is using will only serve to increase violence.

    From the interview:

    The left-wing “Antifa” movement is rising in prominence after clashing with white supremacists in Charlottesville, Va., but one progressive scholar says the anti-fascists feed the fire they seek to extinguish.

    “As for Antifa, it’s a minuscule fringe of the Left, just as its predecessors were,” Noam Chomsky told the Washington Examiner. “It’s a major gift to the Right, including the militant Right, who are exuberant.”

    Many activists affiliated with the loosely organized Antifa movement consider themselves anarchists or socialists. They often wear black and take measures to conceal their identity.

    Chomsky said, “what they do is often wrong in principle – like blocking talks – and [the movement] is generally self-destructive.”


    “When confrontation shifts to the arena of violence, it’s the toughest and most brutal who win – and we know who that is,” said Chomsky, a professor emeritus of linguistics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. “That’s quite apart from the opportunity costs – the loss of the opportunity for education, organizing, and serious and constructive activism.”

    Whether he meant to or not, Chomsky’s remarks signal that he is in agreement with President Donald Trump’s condemnation of violent actions and hate coming from “many sides.”

    And its a point with which many conservatives agree.

    Conservative Sheriff David Clarke denounced Antifa and other leftist movement for being just as dangerous to American civility as white nationalist/Nazi groups in a column for The Hill Thursday:

    The very next day after Charlottesville, some were trying to cloak the liberal riot-starters who showed up itching for a confrontation by portraying them as a force for good. But the truth was very different. In reality, extreme leftist movements — be they Antifa or Black Lives Matter — are in the same category as neo-Nazis and white supremacists.

    Yes, I said it. These are all fringe hate groups that should be condemned. There are no good guys involved. It’s remarkable that the political left continues to treat Antifa and Black Lives Matter as mainstream movements. It must stop.

    Unfortunately, the shrieking mainstream media and political establishments aren’t likely to admit anytime soon that the Antifa playbook is built around the very sort of fascist approach to political discourse the group claims to be fighting against.
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    Good for him. Now hopefully we'll see his comments printed in MSM news (not holding my breath).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug_M View Post
    Good for him. Now hopefully we'll see his comments printed in MSM news (not holding my breath).
    antifa is the product of the left's social engineers. For the moment, they are the crowning achievement of the left wing pseudo intellectual thugs.

    So they will keep playing that same sh!++y song.
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    “When confrontation shifts to the arena of violence, it’s the toughest and most brutal who win – and we know who that is,” said Chomsky,
    I love the left talking about a purge. Makes me giggle. They haven't got the first idea of what they will be up against if they even seriously consider a "purge" of right wing people. The left seems to live in a perpetual fantasy world of their own making, Too bad real life is not a fantasy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suputin View Post
    I love the left talking about a purge. Makes me giggle. They haven't got the first idea of what they will be up against if they even seriously consider a "purge" of right wing people. The left seems to live in a perpetual fantasy world of their own making, Too bad real life is not a fantasy.
    Communists are good at purging. We need to fight back sooner than later. Moderate Canadians may very well have their families destroyed and live in relative slavery, and the government agents always side with big government, so don't expect any help from the police. Conservative politicians don't seem to be on our side in any meaningful way anymore either, and with Rebel Media dying, we're in a bad spot. Real conservatives need a social presence to advocate for our interests before we live under some weird feminist Sharia system.
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    I think bill c 89 makes a lot of headway towards the early goal of removing children from parents.

    Wynne and her henchmen are pure evil.

    But do keep in mind, there was not a single dissenting vote.

    When the so called conservatives call for money, they will be taken to task and refused a single dime for voting for this and the carbon tax. They have to be held to account.

    Voting against wynne and gang is not voting for anything.

    And all politicians need to get a clue that the opposite of wrong isn't automatically what's right.

    I'm so sick of this eternal bombardment of really bad law. 95% of all government could disappear and i would not miss it.
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    I was wrong about the vote.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/br...ke-kids-from-c

    TORONTO, June 1, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) — Ontario’s Kathleen Wynne Liberals have passed what critics describe as “totalitarian” Bill 89 by a vote of 63 to 23 on the last day before Queen’s Park adjourns for the summer.
    Apologies to all.
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    There is a series on Netflix called World War II in Color. In the history I remember from school, our notion of it begins with the Battle of Britain following the fall of Poland and France, etc. The documentary goes back in the preceding years and covers a wider swath of the world including Italy, Japan, Spain, etc. In many of the cases, there were street riots up to civil wars between communists and fascists.

    The goal isn't for one side or the other, but to keep the pot from boiling over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labradort View Post
    There is a series on Netflix called World War II in Color. In the history I remember from school, our notion of it begins with the Battle of Britain following the fall of Poland and France, etc. The documentary goes back in the preceding years and covers a wider swath of the world including Italy, Japan, Spain, etc. In many of the cases, there were street riots up to civil wars between communists and fascists.

    The goal isn't for one side or the other, but to keep the pot from boiling over.
    The goal in the series?

    Does that work out?
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