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    Hunting with flintlock gun

    As I found recently, obtaining PAL is very complicated and nearly impossible at the resent time. But Canadian firearm law still not requiring to have PAL for flintlock or matchlock guns. I am wandering, is it sufficient enough to complete hunting and firearm safety course so that apply for H1 Ontario hunting license? I mean, do NOT obtain PAL, but still hunt with a flintlock gun?

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    I'm sure it's legal but convincing a LEO of CO is a different story, while actually out hunting. Take some verifying paperwork with you, to save time and money. Have you checked the hunting regs?

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    It's legal to hunt with a bow. That is hunting. Bow hunters get outdoor cards and tags.

    So hunting with a flintlock is fine as far as I know.

    The problem you will have is buying black powder.

    But, friendly advise, get your PAL. Life will be better for you and better for us in terms of ever increasing numbers of PAL holders.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterloomike View Post
    The problem you will have is buying black powder.
    I've found BP at Cabela's(Barrie) and Epp's, in limited types and quantities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterloomike View Post
    It's legal to hunt with a bow. That is hunting. Bow hunters get outdoor cards and tags.

    So hunting with a flintlock is fine as far as I know.

    The problem you will have is buying black powder.

    But, friendly advise, get your PAL. Life will be better for you and better for us in terms of ever increasing numbers of PAL holders.
    Remember his wife won't let him get a PAL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolver View Post
    I've found BP at Cabela's(Barrie) and Epp's, in limited types and quantities.
    They don't check your license? That's what i'm talking about, not availability.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertMcC View Post
    Remember his wife won't let him get a PAL.
    Well then, some Russian he is.

    Asses must be kicked. Get to work.


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    From what I read, you do not need a PAL to obtain a hunting license and to hunt with a flintlock.
    As you say though, you do need to pass the hunter safety training course and the Canadian Firearms Safety Course.
    The Ontario hunting guide specifically mentions muzzle loaders and flintlocks, and does consider them to be firearms for their purposes, but that does not mean that you need a PAL.
    That guide seems fairly specific with regards to what is required for different species of game, so you would be wise to verify that you can use a flintlock for what you intend to hunt.
    And, I agree with "wolver" in that you should download some information from the Canadian Firearms Act to show to a police officer should you encounter one, just in case they challenge you on not having a PAL.
    You should also treat that flintlock as a firearm in all respects, including casing it properly and even using a trigger lock to keep LEOs happy, even if it isn't required.

    Legally, a PAL is not required to buy either black or smokeless powder, but providing two pieces of identification is. Unfortunately, many places won't sell to you without a PAL anyway. Some provinces urge dealers to do this.
    This sort of begs the question of what might happen if you were in possession of black powder in a flask or horn, if you had no PAL.
    While no possession law exists, police might wonder how and where you acquired it without a PAL.

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    I think Barlow has nailed it.

    There may be something about driving between hunting spots with a flint. No powder in the pan, i'm pretty sure.

    Nothing like hunting with a flint. It's the real deal.


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    I guess i need to get out more. I know zip about Philippine Russians.


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