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    Trudeau Blames His Voters For The Carbon Tax

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    Reminds me of Bill C-71. In Bill C-71 the conservative committee members commented that they agree about public safety, just that conservatives are looking for effective solutions and the Liberals are looking for gestures.
    With Climate Change, conservatives are saying that they believe in climate change but like Australia, Canada's carbon tax will hit our economy which is already experiencing less growth than other G7 nations and have no effect on the weather, and this is a gesture not a solution. Ontario's pollution improvements were pretty much entirely due to efforts south of the border, not due to Ontario Wynne Liberals closing any power plants.

    They're going to be increasing the costs to get to work, increasing consumer debt levels, increasing deficits and national debt, for generations, in order to 'protect our children's future' with a method that will not affect climate change.

    "CO2 is pollution". justin is breathing. justin is polluting ?

    Do any of you get gasoline for your personal car for free? Are there any taxes for that gasoline? Is that pollution "free" ?

    Would anyone be happier if Canada merely went on a massive tree planting binge ? (reduce wind, reduce flood movement, capture carbon, increase oxygen)

    Corporations can redirect their spending to government approved sources, and negotiate trades in carbon taxes. The only people who can't are low income and middle class families.

    His plan is to have working class Canadians pay for the world's pollution.

    [amusing sarcasm] Canada has lots of forests. Justin should go to China, and demand that they pay Canada for cleaning the world's air. During NAFTA, when Trump said Canada should pay for USA defending Canada, Freeland should have said America should pay for cleaning their air.[/amusing sarcasm]

    Didn't BC's economy grow due to LNG and fake housing bubble? "Everything in BC is more expensive."

    In this video, justin asserts
    - it's unfortunate to see that some politicians, conservative politicians specifically, that still think pollution should be free.
    - that his carbon tax will create new jobs, better solutions, and create an economy that will be sustainable long into the future
    - Liberals have expressed a desire to work in partnership with the provinces, but if they don't want to fight climate change using carbon taxes like we do, 'Canadians' are counting on the federal government to force them to. Liberals will force them to.
    - Citizens need to ask conservatives why they aren't putting a price on pollution, why they aren't thinking about future generations
    - most important geographic challenge of our time. (geographic?)
    - climate change represents a real threat to us now, with wildfires and floods and extreme weather events becoming more frequent and more and more costly
    - we have decided as a government, because Canadians asked us to in 2015 and because Canadians asked us to do this in 2015 (his repeat), to put a price on pollution. Pollution should not be free anywhere across this country.
    - that BC's improvements are due to the government's carbon tax. They saw both their emissions decline and their economy grow.
    - we will be moving forward in making polluters pay, as we support families right across the nation in this time of transition to a cleaner economy
    - smug smile. (got all his talking points in)
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    What a smug, sanctimonious SOB. May an avalanche find you, your offspring and all those delusional fools like you. F me this guy pisses me off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangeBob View Post
    Would anyone be happier if Canada merely went on a massive tree planting binge ? (reduce wind, reduce flood movement, capture carbon, increase oxygen
    Give everyone who wants them 100 tree seedlings. Spend the money once, and these trees will spend a lifetime removing co2.
    Why does the rest of the country get first dibbs on half my income?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewey Cox View Post
    Give everyone who wants them 100 tree seedlings. Spend the money once, and these trees will spend a lifetime removing co2.
    That's kind of the way the Harper government did things. "If you'd like to do this, here's money to support it."
    also "here's some money without strings".

    As opposed to the Liberal way "Do this, or we'll do it to you." (or in the case of the Firearms Act "Do this, or we'll throw you in jail")

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    The idea that CO2 is pollution is the greatest con of our time.
    Pew pew pew

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug_M View Post
    The idea that CO2 is pollution is the greatest con of our time.
    Look at all that pollution!


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    Quote Originally Posted by awndray View Post
    Look at all that pollution!

    America could do really well with that. Making really good fuel for only 6 or 7 times the current fuel prices, in their sunny deserts.
    (although that company mentions using solar power to get the energy, I'll bet they're currently getting power from the grid, which is fine for research)

    Ironically they might be able to lower the cost at the pump to just over current levels, if they mixed their really good fuel, with Alberta's bitumen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangeBob View Post
    America could do really well with that. Making really good fuel for only 6 or 7 times the current fuel prices...
    Probably start a new crisis, CO2 depletion, insufficient CO2 for plants grow but, another opportunity for government to tax CO2 usage... Never ends!
    Remember May 1, 2020 when they say: "we don't want your guns."
    The Turd Reich, where the law abiding get moistly shafted!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magi View Post
    Probably start a new crisis, CO2 depletion, insufficient CO2 for plants grow but, another opportunity for government to tax CO2 usage... Never ends!
    Latest scandal 2024
    Farmers Against Clean Fuel is actually an Astroturf operation by a MultiNational !

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    Quote Originally Posted by awndray View Post
    Look at all that pollution!
    Yes that made the news (back pages) a while back. Something is fishy though. Either the technology is sketchy or the green energy industry/wealth transfer scammers (yeah, I'm a "denier") don't really want a solution. The other issue to consider if this tech is real is we don't want to reduce the CO2 in the atmosphere. Sure there may be an optimum level but I don't think we've reached it yet. The earth has never been greener in this century or the last thanks to the CO2 in the atmosphere now. Either way I guess we'll have to wait and see if this tech is real or not.
    Pew pew pew

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