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    Shooting incidents fell by 36 per cent in Surrey last year, RCMP say

    Surrey, British Columbia
    Jan 10, 2019

    Numbers are half of what they were in 2015, police add

    Surrey RCMP have been under attack from newly elected Mayor Doug McCallum who says they are not adequately serving the city and has vowed to replace them.

    The Surrey RCMP says there was a 36 per cent decrease in the number of incidents where shots were fired compared to 2017.

    Sgt. Chad Greig, the force's media relations officer, said the statistic coveres any incident where police had to investigate whether a firearm was discharged in the city.

    Grieg said the force is happy to see the decrease, which he says represents a 57 per cent decrease from 2015 where there 88 such incidents.

    "We saw a very high amount of shootings in 2015," Grieg said. "Since then we've been working diligently in the community through our education, prevention and enforcement."

    Asked why the force was revealing the statistic this week, Grieg said it was part of a year-end review.

    "It's the end of year and we just wanted to show the community that public safety is our number one priority, and look, here are the stats to show we are continuing to work hard for you in the City of Surrey," he said.

    Surrey Mayor Doug McCallum has pledged to replace the city's RCMP force the largest detachment in the country in favour of an independent, municipal police force. McCallum has claimed the RCMP force is understaffed and that the community is being under-served.

    Surrey RCMP has said it will not participate in the transition operation.

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    So do we still have a gun crisis or not in Surrey???
    Can the Surrey Police elaborate on exactly what they did and actions they took to cause the reduction in shootings? After all, maybe the Toronto police can use best practices from their counterparts to attack the shootings in Toronto.
    Or, more likely, SPD is just riding the wave of luck and the drop is either accidental or the 2015 shootings total were a blip or statistical anomaly.
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    The way the article reads...
    If shootings go up then it's the fault of criminals, and not due to inefficient policing (such as understaffed).
    If shootings go down then it's because of the deterrence of efficient policing, influencing an infinite number of criminals.

    Regardless of the politics, it's nice to see a decrease.



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    Regardless of the politics, it's nice to see a decrease.
    Absolutely.
    Sometimes “better to be lucky than good”.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTW View Post
    So do we still have a gun crisis or not in Surrey???
    Can the Surrey Police elaborate on exactly what they did and actions they took to cause the reduction in shootings? After all, maybe the Toronto police can use best practices from their counterparts to attack the shootings in Toronto.
    Or, more likely, SPD is just riding the wave of luck and the drop is either accidental or the 2015 shootings total were a blip or statistical anomaly.
    Gang wars tend to sort them selves out. No outside help is required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdod101 View Post
    Gang wars tend to sort them selves out. No outside help is required.
    The violence will pick up again once the incarcerated ones become eligible for parole. The shootings will start again to reclaim former territory that was backfilled by the competition. And the cycle WILL repeat itself, the demand is still there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdod101 View Post
    Gang wars tend to sort them selves out. No outside help is required.
    I disagree. The problem can always use a little help. What you do is put them all inside a compound surrounded by concrete walls.....then you throw in a couple hundred knives and guns with a plentiful supply of ammo. THEN the problem will solve itself.
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