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    Australia has strict gun laws correct ?

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    Crazy right?

    The street was «littered with casings».

    Since they can only own break-action shotguns, I assume they were 20 or so shooters crammed inside that sports car? Right?
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    and instead of realizing that this PROVES gun control doesn't work, there will be nothing but calls for more gun bans

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    Now they'll ban cars so they can't be used to shot from or used to escape in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stew View Post
    and instead of realizing that this PROVES gun control doesn't work, there will be nothing but calls for more gun bans
    And, instead of pushing for recognition of the right to defend life, liberty, and property - the pro-gun advocates will likely continue to push the losing “but we’re nice guys, our guns are nice guns, and our hobby is a nice hobby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stew View Post
    and instead of realizing that this PROVES gun control doesn't work, there will be nothing but calls for more gun bans
    It's a little more complicated than that, and you have to understand how they think.

    If there are 1,000 shootings per year and then a massive gun ban and you end up with 500 shootings per year, does that mean it didn't work?

    What is your definition of success, dropping all the way to zero or lowering a number?

    And even then, no one number can be looked at in isolation. If gun murders drop but overall murders stay the same, then nothing has been accomplished other than taking guns away from lawful people who enjoy them.

    But you're going to lose debates with antis if you have the mindset that something is ineffective unless it drops to zero. That's like saying seatbelts are ineffective because people still die in car crashes.
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    That's right. Mind you, the FAC was supposed to stop all criminal use of firearms too.
    "...PROVES gun control doesn't work..." That was proven long ago. It's easier for politicians to pass yet another law than actually fight crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice View Post
    That's right. Mind you, the FAC was supposed to stop all criminal use of firearms too.
    "...PROVES gun control doesn't work..." That was proven long ago. It's easier for politicians to pass yet another law than actually fight crime.
    "...PROVES gun control doesn't work...”

    True, but only if the goal is to fight crime.

    It isn’t.
    To show that men can travel to the moon and return, use the American experience.

    To show that public safety isn’t hurt by responsible individuals carrying to protect life, use the American experience.

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