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    6.5 Creedmoor loads

    Ok....I have taken the plunge. I have a 6.5CM. Please don't judge me.

    I have a 6.5x47L and have a couple of great nodes for the 139gr Scenar. All with the small rifle primer, btw. And I've taken it out to the mile.

    Now, it's time to develop a load for the Creedmoor round. Here's the particulars...

    Brass: Lapua (with small primer pockets)
    Bullets: 136gr Lapua Scenar-L
    Primers: CCI BR4
    Powder: Varget

    The rifle will be a secret for now. But it has a 25" heavy contour 1:8" twist barrel. So the speeds should be decent with the 136gr pill.

    Anyone want to volunteer some loads with similar particulars? I have not seen many with the 136gr bullets.

    Andy 6MT
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    Why would anyone judge you? The Creedmoors are awesome.

    I'm not that sold on varget for it. It may be a bit too fast burning for the 6.5. I've been using h4350 in a 26 1/8 with 140 eldms. I've been getting one hole groups with it and won one match out of one matches ive taken it to. I don't recall the charge i used off hand though but they were cruising just over 2720fps.

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    I love the 6.5CM, developed 2 loads depending on what distance I planned to shoot at. Brass is Lapua (SR primer pocket) with Federal primers. Powder is H4350.

    Load 1: 123gr Scenar (Lapua GB489) - most of my shoots are up to 500m
    - 40.8 gr @2729 ft/s
    Load 2: 140gr Hornady Match (#26335) - for when I want to reach out further.
    - 39.3 gr @2496 ft/s

    Both loads zero'd at 200m with all 10 shots within a 2cm hole (I know, it's not the gun it's me )

    Honestly compared to the hornady reloading manual the MV match closely to what is published.
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    The 3 grains difference in the bullet weights won't make much, if any, difference. You could use the same 139 if you really wanted to. What you're planning on doing with the thing matters more.
    With Lapua stuff, you're paying extra for the name too. Any 6.5 bullet will do nicely. Hornady makes a swarm of match grade bullets starting at 100 grains. Their ELD brand.
    Sierra makes a 150 grain HPBT. Data is here.
    https://sierrabulletsblog.com/2017/0...oor-load-data/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice View Post
    The 3 grains difference in the bullet weights won't make much, if any, difference. You could use the same 139 if you really wanted to. What you're planning on doing with the thing matters more.
    With Lapua stuff, you're paying extra for the name too. Any 6.5 bullet will do nicely. Hornady makes a swarm of match grade bullets starting at 100 grains. Their ELD brand.
    Sierra makes a 150 grain HPBT. Data is here.
    https://sierrabulletsblog.com/2017/0...oor-load-data/
    Agree with the pill weight recommendation but as far as prices go that is not the case. Lapua 139gr Scenar goes for $53 100/box, 136gr Scenar-L for $59 100/box whereas Hornady ELD-M 140gr goes for $61.99 100/box.

    https://www.tesro.ca/reloading/bulle...ox-of-100.html

    https://www.cabelas.ca/product/88763...-rifle-bullets

    https://www.hirschprecision.com/inde...1c13582bdb5d36

    I created a comparison chart - so if you shop around the prices are very close and you don't pay a premium for Lapua:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice View Post
    The 3 grains difference in the bullet weights won't make much, if any, difference. You could use the same 139 if you really wanted to. What you're planning on doing with the thing matters more.
    With Lapua stuff, you're paying extra for the name too. Any 6.5 bullet will do nicely. Hornady makes a swarm of match grade bullets starting at 100 grains. Their ELD brand.
    Sierra makes a 150 grain HPBT. Data is here.
    https://sierrabulletsblog.com/2017/0...oor-load-data/
    I have to agree. My 6.5x47L with 139gr Scenars maxxes out at the mile (1600m). So, up to and including that is all I want from that round in that rifle with that load. The CM with the slightly lighter bullet probably won't do the mile as consistently as the x47 round. So I'm guessing that the CM load will probably be maxxed out around 1300m (I really would have to see how it performs....big caveat here!).

    And I must agree with the other poster, Lapua bullets are not the most expensive out there. And as far as Hornady goes, I'm not a big fan of melting tip ELD's.
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    I did 6 different weights of Varget for my OCW tests. And then when the field narrowed, I also did two depth tests. What I came up with was a very nice node.

    Here's my load information;

    Brass: Lapua
    Bullet: Lapua Scenar-L 136gr
    Primer: CCI BR4
    Powder: Varget 37.2gr
    COAL (ogive): 2.281" (.010" jump)
    Shoulder bump: 0.0015"
    Speed: 2697fps -10 shot average, S.D. 4.3, E.S. 13

    The results at 97m were 1/2moa. Temperature was 19c and R.H. was 43%. Wind was negligible. I was confident and headed off the short range to see what it could do a little longer out.

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    Following. Love 6.5 CM but haven't made the move to reloading for it yet. The pre-rolled stuff performs pretty darn good for my needs but there's always room for improvement!

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    I haven't had a chance to load for my sons 6.5cm yet, i'm among the group that believes it is a cartridge that is a marketing ploy. The 260 rem would be my next choice if I let go of my 6.5x55. When the boy brings his rifle out and lets me develop some loads for it we will see. I'm waiting to be convinced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    I haven't had a chance to load for my sons 6.5cm yet, i'm among the group that believes it is a cartridge that is a marketing ploy. The 260 rem would be my next choice if I let go of my 6.5x55. When the boy brings his rifle out and lets me develop some loads for it we will see. I'm waiting to be convinced.
    You need to open your mind about the Creedmoor. Arguing about which cartridge is better is like two fleas arguing over which dog is a better home. Each one has their purpose.

    They are different. <---That's my "professional, non-judgemental, non-biased, I wouldn't want to pi$$ anyone off" opinion on the subject.

    Soap box rant over.

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