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    Bans will not stop criminals

    from https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...-halle-attack/ click on link to see all the pictures

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    Several improvised / homemade weapons were employed in an attempted mass shooting attack on a synagogue in Halle, Germany on Wednesday during Yom Kippur. The whole event was live-streamed via a GoPro to the video game streaming website Twitch. Luckily the attacker’s inability to breech a door prevented him from entering into the building where 70 to 80 worshipers gathered inside. A passer-by was shot and killed after which the shooter entered a nearby kebab shop where another victim was shot dead. After being injured during an exchange of gunfire with police the shooter was apprehended and is currently in custody.

    The weapon used most during the attack was an improvised pipe shotgun known as a ‘slam-bang’ or ‘slam-fire’ shotgun. This is probably the easiest type of improvised firearm a person can make and simply consists of two lengths of steel tube with a fixed firing pin either welded into a block at the rear of the large diameter pipe or tapped into an screw-on end cap. The weapon is fired by inserting a shell into the barrel tube which when inserted into the larger diameter outer tube is pulled to the rear to fire, forcing the shell against a protrusion fixed into a plug or screw on end cap. The weapon first came to prominence during the Japanese occupation of the Philippines during WW2. Guerilla fighters would salvage water pipe to make them for use against Japanese soldiers, who after being ambushed could have whatever weapons they were carrying taken. Throughout the attack this weapon functioned reliably with no failures, owing to its sheer simplicity and lack of moving parts aside from the barrel.


    An improvised slam-fire 12 gauge shotgun fitted with a 3D printed shell holder capable of holding 5 shells. Each shell was loaded with 5 grams of homemade black powder.

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    The weapon the shooter first attempted to enter the synagogue with was a homemade 9mm submachine gun, the design of which was published in the book Expedient Homemade Firearms by British author and gun rights activist P.A Luty in 1998. During the shooting, a series of failures to feed caused the shooter to abandon this weapon in favor of the shotgun, This was likely due to the shooter having utilized improvised gun powder made from potassium chlorate and sugar which unlike clean burning powder in conventional rounds is liable to quickly gum up and foul the chamber.

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    The 9mm homemade submachine gun modified with the addition of a wooden stock and sighting device. The tool pictured to the right was intended to allow for extraction of stuck cases in place of an extractor.





    A more compact version was kept in the shooter’s vehicle ‘for use while driving and as a 2nd back up’ and features a lower receiver as well as several magazines made using a 3D printer.


    A smaller more compact version of the first shotgun, being constructed from 28mm x 2.5mm and 35mm x 3mm seamless steel tubing.





    A .38 caliber single-shot break barrel pistol adapted from the .22 ‘Western’ design of which was first published in 1972 as part of the Jaco series of homemade firearm blueprints. The ammunition used in this design was loaded with match heads finely ground into an improvised gun powder.



    A mixture of poor performing ammunition coupled with general incompetence of the shooter likely prevented further deaths in this case. Had the attacker armed himself with the sword he also had instead the outcome may have been the same or perhaps even worse.

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    Bans will not stop criminals.
    No kidding!

    Bans are not designed to stop criminals - they are designed to stop you, stop you from being armed!
    To show that men can travel to the moon and return, use the American experience.

    To show that public safety isn’t hurt by responsible individuals carrying to protect life, use the American experience.

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    Nothing like spelling out how to build a slam-fire for the next douchebag.
    What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
    - Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787

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    there's plans for home made firearms on most "prepper" websites and all over home gunsmithing sites. Bans are just to placate those citizens who deal in "feels" instead of facts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swingerguy View Post
    Nothing like spelling out how to build a slam-fire for the next douchebag.
    Are you new to this internets thing? There are plans and 3D CAD drawings and files readily available on the internet. Not to mention books and articles detailing field expedient weapons available everywhere.

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    There is no need to build anything . Canada shares the longest border in the world with the U.S. ; which also happens to be the biggest gun culture in the world . Criminals can get any gun they want , at any time , with no questions asked.....that is why they are criminals . Canadian gun bans have NOTHING TO DO WITH SAFETY ; it is all about disarming the Canadian public as it fits the Liberals anti gun agenda .
    " Better To Fight For Something , Than Live For Nothing " ; " When In Doubt....ATTACK ".......Gen. George S. Patton Jr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suputin View Post
    Are you new to this internets thing? There are plans and 3D CAD drawings and files readily available on the internet. Not to mention books and articles detailing field expedient weapons available everywhere.
    Whatever you do, don't tell him about Ivan the troll and $350 3d printers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hillbillyh View Post
    Whatever you do, don't tell him about Ivan the troll and $350 3d printers.
    People have made AR lowers out of all kinds of stuff from wood to plastic cutting boards. A 3D printed lower is entirely viable. Lets face it the thing only has to last enough rounds to fend off a few criminals or to get yourself a better firearm.

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    Government is your servant not your master.
    Taxation is theft.

    Abolish government

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suputin View Post
    Are you new to this internets thing? There are plans and 3D CAD drawings and files readily available on the internet. Not to mention books and articles detailing field expedient weapons available everywhere.
    YouTube has a number of builds for those that are more visual than literal.

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