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    Quote Originally Posted by Two For Sure View Post
    Voting for a fringe party is just the same as the first option.
    For the most part yes. First goal is to elect Conservative MPs.
    But a lesser goal is to deny Liberals seats, such as the rare case that you're in a riding where the Conservative has no chance, and it's a close race between {Liberal, NDP} or {Liberal, Green}, vote {NDP} or {Green}, to deny the Liberal the seat, thus increasing the odds that the Conservatives will have the most seats in the house and form government with the power to OIC.

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    And, get involved as much as you can with your local CPC candidate where possible. I’m volunteering with mine, using every opportunity to discuss the issues affecting legal Canadian shooters, be they hunters, target shooters, trap shooters, black gun enthusiasts, handgun owners etc. She’s well aware I and fellow gunners have her (& party) back, but we take their words very seriously and our support can dissipate quickly. I’ve had the opportunity and pleasure to discuss gun/property rights with MP’s like James Bezan & Michelle Rempel, who I believe also firmly have our back. But there a a bunch of Red Tory types still out there, so as I implied before, we have to hold their feet to the fire.
    Step 1: get the CPC elected this fall - preferably a majority
    Step 2: work on undoing the damage caused by the Liberals on all fronts including gun control, deficits and attacking crime.
    Step 3: if all else fails, as RB says, work to deny the Libs of as many seats as possible.
    "Mr. Speaker, we really could replace Justin Trudeau with a cardboard cutout, and his peanut gallery wouldn't know the difference"

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTW View Post
    And, get involved as much as you can with your local CPC candidate where possible. I’m volunteering with mine, using every opportunity to discuss the issues affecting legal Canadian shooters, be they hunters, target shooters, trap shooters, black gun enthusiasts, handgun owners etc. She’s well aware I and fellow gunners have her (& party) back, but we take their words very seriously and our support can dissipate quickly. I’ve had the opportunity and pleasure to discuss gun/property rights with MP’s like James Bezan & Michelle Rempel, who I believe also firmly have our back. But there a a bunch of Red Tory types still out there, so as I implied before, we have to hold their feet to the fire.
    Step 1: get the CPC elected this fall - preferably a majority
    Step 2: work on undoing the damage caused by the Liberals on all fronts including gun control, deficits and attacking crime.
    Step 3: if all else fails, as RB says, work to deny the Libs of as many seats as possible.

    The red tories are as almost as much of a threat as the Liberals. As long as one major political party still supports us, there is hope. Once they abandon us (like they have in England or Australia), we're truly toast. It's the main reason I stay involved with the CPC - to do what I can to keep them going too far red, when I talk to the MPs, when I participate in policy meetings. and when I talk to fellow members who are also involved in the party. They ned to know that guns are not an issue where they can truly throw us under the bus without losing vital support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJSpeller View Post
    ... It's the main reason I stay involved with the CPC - to do what I can to keep them going too far red, when I talk to the MPs, when I participate in policy meetings. and when I talk to fellow members who are also involved in the party. They ned to know that guns are not an issue where they can truly throw us under the bus without losing vital support.
    That is what is needed, actual support volunteering and being involved; not just sniping from a keyboard.
    Cheques are nice but they aren't a substitute for front line participation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magi View Post
    I would still like to read an explanation on how they plan on overcoming a Liberal majority Senate.
    Oh get this... Remple told me that she thinks the Libtard senators will play nice and won't block CPC legislation. (maybe she is right if the legislation is half-assed like typical CPC 'pro-gun' bills)

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    "...I would like to make it clear that I would repeal the Liberal's gun registry..." And that's exactly what he did. That's all he said he would do.
    Mulroney, on the other hand, promised prior to 1984's election, to "Fix the gun laws." And let Kim Campbell make 'em worse.
    You cannot believe anything the CPC says prior to an election.
    Mind you, not voting for 'em these days pretty much guarantees Junior and his other Socialist Parties will eventually confiscate our property(like the Chretien Gang did with the Franchi SPAS 12 in 1992), increase the penalties and give the unelected civil servants more power.
    "...personal for her..." And Scheer is supposedly a firearms owner.

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    You cannot believe anything ANY politician says before an election.


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    One of the things I was hoping the CPC might do, is update the legislation so that 22LR magazines in any size would be legal again.

    But, other countries are still possible, but the USA will limit things like 22LR drum mags, and 33 round glock mags :

    Quote Originally Posted by IRUNGUNS
    The export of high capacity magazines over 32 rounds is now prohibited.

    This was released to us last week by the US State Department, they are enforcing Section 38 of the AECA:

    “Dear Carolyn,

    Thanks for your email regarding DDTC provisos to restrict certain pinned magazines. We understand that pinning magazines is an acceptable practice in most instances and wanted to give you additional guidance for submitting these cases going forward. DDTC is not against the pinning of magazines that have a capacity of 32 rounds or below.
    Therefore, we ask that when submitting a license application for pinned magazines that you state: “Magazines up to a 32 round capacity pinned to [X] rounds.” This will alleviate the need for you to submit a separate line item for each magazine.

    However, DDTC will continue to restrict the export of high capacity magazines (defined as those over 32 rounds) – pinned or not – to government end use only. This is why DDTC needs to know the unaltered magazine capacity for the licenses you submitted. Section 38 of the AECA allows DDTC to restrict the end use of USML defense articles in order to “control imports and exports of defense articles in furtherance of world peace and security and foreign policy of the U.S.” Section 38 is implemented on a case by case basis in response to concerns regarding the end use of defense articles and in reaction to U.S. foreign policy objectives. “


    The above release means there will be no more magazines with an original capacity of over 32 rounds exported from the United States.

    Thank you for your understanding.

    The IRUNGUNS Team
    Quote Originally Posted by Karnage
    China: Norinco 100rd 120rd .223 drums, AK drums etc..

    South Korea: KCI 33rd Glock mags, 100rd AR15 drums etc..

    Belgium: P90 mags sold around the world

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