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    180gr. roundnose for lever action?

    So I was given a couple of boxes of Hornady 180gr. roundnose projectiles in .30 calibre. I was thinking of trying them in my .30-.30 but I can't find any reloading data in the Hornady manual for that heavy a bullet for .30-.30.
    They only have it listed in the .308 section..
    Has anyone ever loaded something this heavy in a .30-.30? Good idea or bad idea?
    The only .308 that I own is a Remington PCR 700 and I don't think the roundnose are going to be very good coming out of that rifle...
    Thoughts?

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    My 49th edition Lyman manual only lists up to 150g round nose and 173 cast.

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    Hornady lists up to 170gr, but that's where it stops. I don't want to try them if I run the risk of an accident.

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    180's are far too long for the .30-30. Max OAL for the .30-30 is 2.550". A 180 will give more than that.
    An RN will work just fine out of your M700. Give you a really good Bullwinkle load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice View Post
    180's are far too long for the .30-30. Max OAL for the .30-30 is 2.550". A 180 will give more than that.
    Yes, because the extra 10 grains of bullet weight will translate into the bullet being what, 1 1/2", maybe 1 3/4" longer than a 170gr?
    Can you just stop?

    Hornady 180gr. roundnose projectiles in .30 calibre.
    # 3075 RN Interlock according to my Hornady book is a serious bullet, designed for medium and large game.
    A nice thing with the Hornady book is they give the speeds it should be used at, in this case, muzzle speeds of 2400-3400fps.
    The bad thing with the Hornady book, they won't publish data that doesn'tpropel bullets at the speed they deem appropriate.
    They're saying the 180gr isn't appropriate, and I'd suggest they're right.
    If you dropped 170gr data by 1/2 or a full grain, I'm sure they'd fly fine, but they're too stoutly constructed to expand in game at 30-30 speeds.
    According to the Hornady book, even a 308 barely pushes them fast enough.
    Don't blame me, I didn't vote for that clown. Oct 20, '15

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    I like this site for my reload data: https://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/rifle. it's the next best thing to having Rory sitting next to you.

    There is no data for 180gr bullet but just picking 30-30 Winchester and selecting H4198 as the powder, you can see a progression of start load that supports Rory's suggestion. I select H4198 cause that's what I use for my 30-30. Use your favorite powder to get a close approximation on the start load.

    A google search seems to indicate that the bullet is intended for 30-40 Krag.
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    As always, you all are the best! Thanks for you input. I'm going to stick to using those heavier bullets in my .308.

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    I looked in my Lee Manual and there is no 180 grain listing at all for 30-30, there is however many 170 grain and 190 grain listings.

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    "...the extra 10 grains..." When the cartridge is loaded to the Max SAAMI OAL will give you a loaded round that is TOO LONG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice View Post
    "...the extra 10 grains..." When the cartridge is loaded to the Max SAAMI OAL will give you a loaded round that is TOO LONG.
    Good Grief, read that part over again.
    Slowly.
    Don't blame me, I didn't vote for that clown. Oct 20, '15

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