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    Quote Originally Posted by tdod101 View Post
    I wonder what Wendy thinks when reading this thread
    Wendy will be thinking the same as Trudeau & Blair ¨It´s (the gun bans) a DONE DEAL¨.
    Just like c51, c17, c68 before.
    If we´re nothing else we´re consistent.
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    Back to the thread subject matter about the new NZ gun laws -



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    I live among lots of sheeple and dim witted who like to think they are good Canadians for voting Lieberal

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    At least the kiwis are showing a little dignity and are turning them in without all the compensatory behaviour (strutting, tough talk, bickering with other gun owners) we're seeing here.
    They're British subjects and don't seem to be the least bit ashamed (or even aware) of being spineless drones.
    I guess if you're yellow, you're yellow ... why pretend to be anything else?
    That's socialist brainwashing taken to the nth degree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunrunner View Post
    At least the kiwis are showing a little dignity and are turning them in without all the compensatory behaviour (strutting, tough talk, bickering with other gun owners) we're seeing here.
    They're British subjects and don't seem to be the least bit ashamed (or even aware) of being spineless drones.
    I guess if you're yellow, you're yellow ... why pretend to be anything else?
    That's socialist brainwashing taken to the nth degree.
    Yup and Alberta's gone, your mileage may vary.
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    So does this mean I should put together my 'Buy it sooner than later' List?
    Where to start?
    A couple Versa Max Tacticals
    Scorpion Evo 3 carbines
    Stag 10's
    etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabio View Post
    So does this mean I should put together my 'Buy it sooner than later' List?
    That's hard to say. With C-71 I would have said their plan was to grandfather everything they prohibited as that allows them to ban without providing compensation. But they said before the election that they would ban/confiscate/compensate. So if you buy that list and they ban/confiscate/compensate the question becomes do they pay you what you paid to buy them? I don't think they will. Of course another question is what firearms are going to be caught up in this? Maybe the Evo 3 isn't on their radar for first round bans? Man it is a crap shoot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug_M View Post
    That's hard to say. With C-71 I would have said their plan was to grandfather everything they prohibited as that allows them to ban without providing compensation. But they said before the election that they would ban/confiscate/compensate. So if you buy that list and they ban/confiscate/compensate the question becomes do they pay you what you paid to buy them? I don't think they will. Of course another question is what firearms are going to be caught up in this? Maybe the Evo 3 isn't on their radar for first round bans? Man it is a crap shoot!

    If you can afford it (and take a loss) then go for it! If not, hold off.
    +1. Until we know what is planned buy what you want and enjoy it. It's quite easy to make a campaign promise but another to make it a reality. The banning of what the Liberals call "assault rifles" is easy to say but quite complex and potentially very expensive to the public coffers.

    If they grandfather you get to keep what you have. If they compensate you will probably get back close to the same amount you'd get if you sold your gun on the used market. Government expropriation of private property for the "public good" is not unusual in Canada and there are years of legal precedence requiring that compensation must be paid and fair.

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    ‘Two-thirds of banned firearms still circulating’

    Gun rights advocates claim around two-thirds of banned firearms are still circulating and they worry the weapons could end up in the hands of criminals.

    Amnesty ends this week after five months of the gun buyback collection, as the police remind people Friday is the last day to receive compensation for their guns.

    Police say about 47,000 weapons have been handed in, causing the government to pay out more than $73 million as a result.

    Until now gun owners haven't had to register each individual firearm, but the Council of Licenced Firearms Owners say there is a shortfall of about 70 percent.

    The council's national secretary Nicole McKee says the process has been very rushed and believes there could still be at least 170,000 prohibited firearms in circulation.

    The police and the government "have left it really late to define a lot of those rules. From October the 25th a new list of prohibited firearms were brought in," she says adding that, that is far too late and too little notice for people to respond.

    "Once people realise they are going to go to jail for possession of these firearms they won't want to be holding them. So it will be really unfortunate if these firearms make their way to the black market because they're too afraid to hand them in."

    She hopes people will seek out the information in the next four days to find out whether they possess anything on the prohibited weapons list.

    "Regardless of whether firearms owners agree with the law or not - it is the law."

    Despite her frustrations, which have been echoed by many gun activists across the country, Nicole encourages people to ask the police if they have questions before the amnesty ends in four days time.

    A police spokesperson says there are still collecting events throughout the country and they advise people to visit their website for more information.

    People can also hand-in weapons to their local police station or organise a bulk-pick for more than 10 items.

    Meanwhile, enquiries into the privacy breach of police's online notification platform for the firearms buy-back programme are ongoing.
    https://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/22952...rculating.html

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    Collector bequeaths gun collection to raise funds for right to own semi-automatics

    Gun collector Alan Walker's dying wish was to have his collection sold to provide funds to protect firearm owners' right to own semi-automatic weapons.

    Walker, 82, died in August last year, nine months before a law change that banned most semi-automatic weapons, and the funds his firearms raise may now be used to fight firearm reforms.

    The Hastings man was a keen collector of firearms, ammunition and military mementos.

    In an unsigned testamentary document found at his home after his death, Walker directed that his collection of "firearms, edged weapons, cartridges, medals, badges, literature, gunsmithing tools, ammunition, loading equipment and other items" be given to the Hawke's Bay Antique and Historical Arms Association.

    He wanted them to be sold by auction with half the proceeds to go to the NZ Council of Licensed Firearms Owners Inc., with 25 per cent to go to the NZ Antique and Historical Arms Association and 25 per cent to the Sporting Shooters Association.

    The purpose of gifting the proceeds in this manner was to "support the rights of New Zealand citizens to possess firearms with a special emphasis on firearms that required a Firearms Licence of either of both a C or E class endorsement".

    The rest of Walker's estate was to be left to his cousin Brian White and White's wife.

    White applied to the High Court in Napier to have the unsigned testamentary document declared valid. Justice Susan Thomas declared the document valid earlier this month.

    White told Stuff there were 30 to 40 firearms in the collection, but he had no idea what the value was.

    "Weapons are not my thing," he said.

    Council of Licensed Firearms Owners secretary Nicole McKee said the organisation "gratefully accepted the gifts" and would ensure Walker's directives were adhered to.

    "We will take legal advice as to whether COLFO's share of the sale of the estate's firearms collection could be used in the Fair and Reasonable campaign which is currently addressing the 2019 firearms reforms. Alternatively, the bequeathed amount once received, will be separated and possibly put into a trust awaiting the appropriate time for its use as per Mr Walker's directive," she said.

    The E endorsement, which was made obsolete in April, allowed a holder to possess and use MSSAs (military-style semi-automatics).

    The C endorsement was for bona fide collectors holding collectables and rare guns.

    The newly banned items are called prohibited firearms, prohibited magazines, and prohibited parts. New offences involving prohibited items carry tougher penalties.

    An amnesty and buy-back scheme is in place until December 20, 2019. Those in possession of prohibited items have until this date to notify police and hand-in their firearm/s and/or parts.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/118...semiautomatics

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