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    Quote Originally Posted by Two For Sure View Post
    The short time frame and the tougher rules give a massive edge to established insiders who already have campaign organizations in place. It also favors social conservatives who can quickly rally their supporters who will come out to support the most devout candidate who promises to end abortion, ban same-sex marriage and put baby Jesus back in charge. Outsiders like Charest, McKay, even Ambrose are at a huge disadvantage.
    And sadly, Ambrose is probably the only one who has the name recognition to win an election without needing a year or more in parliament to build the necessary recognition.
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    I really don't care how RED or BLUE the next leader is,,,,

    I just want someone who will fight tooth and nail to kick Justin's ass to the curb,,,

    we have to win to be in,,,

    once he or she is elected leader ALL must support them 100%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunrunner View Post
    We're in the same unenviable position as the Britts where there's no pro-gun political choices.
    I'd even settle for a gun tolerant party like the old CPC under Harper but alas 2011 and Harper are long gone.
    Politically Canadian gun owners have a choice between 3 fire pits and a frying pan with the CPC being the frying pan.
    They'll all burn you to death but the pan will do it slower.
    The politicians have all learned that there is no political currency in backing gun owners who won't return that support in kind.
    Our assignment, if we accept it, is to create an environment in which the wrong people do the right thing for us.

    As has so clearly been pointed out, the right people are conspicuously absent.
    To show that men can travel to the moon and return, use the American experience.

    To show that public safety isn’t hurt by responsible individuals carrying to protect life, use the American experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awndray View Post
    That doesn't answer the question.
    No, it answers ALL the questions of why Canadian gun owners find themselves neck deep in the middle of the boiling stewpot.
    Our chronic and profound apathy has made supporting us untenable to any political party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billythreefeathers View Post
    I really don't care how RED or BLUE the next leader is,,,,

    I just want someone who will fight tooth and nail to kick Justin's ass to the curb,,,

    we have to win to be in,,,

    once he or she is elected leader ALL must support them 100%
    Probably MacKay and most certainly Charest are just as anti-gun as Trudeau is.
    These nouveau CPC reds are the same gang as Mulroney and Campbell who hit us with bill c17 in 1991.
    Stuffing our heads between our butt cheeks and pretending they’re our friends doesn’t make it true.
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    I saw a blurb on bookface that Pierre was going to run and Baird was to back his campaign.
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    Pierre Poilievre will run for Conservative leadership, sources say

    Pierre Poilievre is going to run for the Conservative leadership, multiple sources have told CTV News.

    Poilievre has been a member of Parliament in Ontario since 2004 and is currently the Conservative Party's finance critic. Speculation began to circle about his potential bid after a press conference on Dec. 16, just four days after Andrew Scheer announced his plan to resign as leader. As journalists pressed him for an answer, Poilievre refused to rule out a bid.

    "It's too early to say what's going to happen. There will be lots of people who will put their names forward. What I do know is that we need someone who will stand up, fight back, and win," he said at the time, while pounding his fist on the podium.

    John Baird, who has previously served in multiple high-profile roles as a member of Stephen Harper's cabinet, will run Poilievre's campaign.

    Candidates hoping to have a shot at winning the race will need to decide whether to run by mid-January, according to Lisa Raitt, who is co-chairing the leadership race organizing committee. The Conservative Party is choosing its leader on June 27. Raitt has said the short race time was chosen as a result of the current minority government, which could fall and trigger an early election. In that case, she said, the new leader would need to be prepared.

    As for who else might run for the leadership, multiple names have emerged as politicians and pundits carve out the names of the people they hope to see run – including Rona Ambrose and Peter MacKay.

    Former NDP Leader Tom Mulcair has said former Quebec premier Jean Charest is considering a bid. High-profile Tories Michelle Rempel Garner and Candice Bergen also have yet to shoot down a potential run.

    Failed Tory leadership candidates Michael Chong and Erin O'Toole and prominent Quebec Conservative Gérard Deltell are also among those whose names keep coming up in speculative circles, but none have formally announced whether they'll try to take over the party's helm.

    Bryan Brulotte, CEO of MaxSys Staffing and Consulting and longtime political organizer, has already officially launched his own leadership campaign.
    https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/pier...-say-1.4756755

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    Politically we’re grasping at straws.
    Harper was more or less gun tolerant and was as close a political friend we ever had or will have.
    Bill c19 is the only reason we still have semis.
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    The Conservatives are heading very rapidly, then, toward a big question: what kind of party do they want to be? This is true along all the obvious axes—east/west, progressive/Reform, rural/urban, Pride attending/ not attending, carbon taxing/ not taxing—and maybe along a few that hadn’t come to mind yet: pleasant/jerk, for instance. I speak, of course, of Pierre Poilievre. Of course the Conservative finance critic makes Liberals furious, but he’s hardly universally popular among Conservatives either. That he is soft-spoken and thoughtful in private does him little good, since he’s just about only ever been a pit bull in public. He’ll be a formidable candidate if, as seems likely, he runs. And he may attempt a personality transplant, on the theory that his previous public persona was a carefully constructed artefact and can easily be swapped out for a new one.
    https://www.macleans.ca/politics/ott...vative-leader/

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    The Conservatives are heading very rapidly, then, toward a big question: what kind of party do they want to be? This is true along all the obvious axes—east/west, progressive/Reform, rural/urban, Pride attending/ not attending, carbon taxing/ not taxing—and maybe along a few that hadn’t come to mind yet: pleasant/jerk, for instance. I speak, of course, of Pierre Poilievre. Of course the Conservative finance critic makes Liberals furious, but he’s hardly universally popular among Conservatives either. That he is soft-spoken and thoughtful in private does him little good, since he’s just about only ever been a pit bull in public. He’ll be a formidable candidate if, as seems likely, he runs. And he may attempt a personality transplant, on the theory that his previous public persona was a carefully constructed artefact and can easily be swapped out for a new one.
    Is this Poilievre going to be any good for gun owners?
    What is his position on firearms ownership?
    Does he own firearms or hunt?

    If he's another lefty leaning antigun red tory I really don't give a sh!t about him or his ideas.
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