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    Shutdown of Canadian National Railway lines leads to propane shortages

    Feb 14 2020
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    Businesses and homes across Atlantic Canada are days away from running out of propane as a result of anti-pipeline protests that have cut off rail links across Canada.

    Ian Wilson, president of Halifax-based Wilson Fuel, said his company is rationing propane by partially filling customers' tanks.

    "If we just filled everybody's tank on delivery, we'd be looking at outages today," he said in an interview Friday.

    "This isn't just an inconvenience. This is a serious problem. And when you're talking about what people use for heating in a Canadian winter, that's a public health and safety issue."

    Greg McCamus, president of Ontario-based Superior Propane, said Atlantic Canada and Quebec remain highly dependent on rail service to maintain propane supplies.

    "We don't want to create panic with people ... but this will evolve pretty quickly when logistics and supply get out of sync," he said in an interview. "It will take a while for it to reconstitute itself."

    McCamus, whose company operates Canada's largest propane distribution network, said suppliers are trying to supplement their dwindling supplies by using trucks, but the fleet of specialized vehicles used for the task are already at capacity.

    "Nobody keeps a whole bunch of propane-hauling trailers available just in case something like this happens," he said.

    "It's a very serious situation. We're calling on government to take joint action to help resolve the situation."

    Propane trucks are being dispatched to Sarnia, Ont., the location of the largest propane terminal in Eastern Canada. But there's already a backlog, forcing truck drivers to wait up to eight hours to get a load. Trucks are also being sent to two refineries in Montreal, where the backlog isn't as long.

    While it's true there are refineries that produce propane in Saint John, N.B., and Come By Chance, N.L., those facilities can't meet the demand from the region.

    As of Thursday, Canadian National Railway started a progressive shutdown in Eastern Canada, while Via Rail cancelled all service on CN tracks in Canada.

    The rail blockades began last week after the RCMP in British Columbia enforced an injunction against Wet'suwet'en First Nation hereditary chiefs and their supporters blocking construction of the Coastal GasLink natural gas pipeline near Houston, B.C.

    Wilson also said government officials should take action to clear the blockades.

    "There's a difference between a peaceful protest and doing things that are causing people real harm," he said. "This is not an economic issue. This is a health-and-safety problem .... The rule of law has to be restored."

    Nathalie St-Pierre, president and CEO of the Canadian Propane Association, said the week-long strike in November involving 3,200 CN workers led to shortages, but the propane supply in Atlantic Canada was partially replenished by a trickle of rail cars.

    "Right now there's nothing," St-Pierre said in an interview. "The supply is depleting quickly."

    The problem is that it is too expensive to build large storage tanks for pressurized propane, which is why a steady supply by rail is needed for Atlantic Canada.

    St-Pierre said suppliers in the region are looking after priority customers, which include seniors homes and certain institutional clients, such as water treatment plants.

    "The railway is the backbone of this infrastructure," St-Pierre said. "And it's not just propane. It's every commodity that travels by rail."

    Meanwhile, the suspension of railway traffic is also having an impact on the Port of Halifax, where 60 per cent of the cargo arrives and leaves by rail.

    "The longer this carries on, the more challenging it's going to be for the terminal operators to maintain yard space," said port spokesman Lane Farguson. "We are a rail-based port."

    The port's inland markets linked by rail include Toronto, Montreal and manufacturing centres in the U.S. Midwest, including Chicago and Detroit.

    Those markets also support the port's export business, which mainly ships to Asia, Europe and the Caribbean.

    If the railway closure drags on, the port will get clogged with incoming shipping containers, and the cargo ships will be forced to find another port to deposit their goods, Farguson said.

    "The longer this drags on, the more it erodes our reputation," he said

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    Wilson also said government officials should take action to clear the blockades.

    "There's a difference between a peaceful protest and doing things that are causing people real harm," he said. "This is not an economic issue. This is a health-and-safety problem .... The rule of law has to be restored."


    Still can't use the word terrorism? What is needed is a new breed of 'bulls'. Rail cops that take no prisoners.
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    In other news, PM Justin Trudeau continues performing self gratification while the country suffers from a lack of action on his government’s part. Oh yeah, where is ole’ Billy bob Blair?
    "Mr. Speaker, we really could replace Justin Trudeau with a cardboard cutout, and his peanut gallery wouldn't know the difference"

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    To all you guys out east who voted conservative, you have my sympathy. If I had spare propane and a way to get it to you, I would. It saddens me to see you in this situation. As for the rest who voted left....I hope this lasts long enough to freeze every uninsured pipe in your house and I hope you have to huddle in shelters to stay warm. Remember...you and Toronto are responsible for Nero The Spineless being in charge of Rome. You reap what you sew.
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    "Canada invades. Invades on behalf of industry," the statement said. "We have had enough. Enough dialogue, discussion, negotiation at the barrel of a gun. Canada comes to colonize. Reconciliation is dead. It is time to fight for our land, our lives, our children, our future. Revolution lives."
    Are they sure they want to push for that? I don't see treaties or an Indian Act in that sequence of events...

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    These protesters are cowards... they are the first to scream war crime if a civilian in a war zone is killed yet...

    They have identified their 'enemy' as the government officials( primarily BC NDP government) and the RCMP acting as their agents. Yet what are the targets of the attacks? Blocking rail lines and here in BC main thoroughfares( stuck idling cars are very environmental), disrupting public transit( another win for the environment). This affects people that are not directly involved or responsible, civilians in a war zone so to speak.

    In all this how does this cause hardship to government and RCMP?

    All Canadians have a right to voice their opinions and to be heard. Blackmail and intimidation by a small vocal group are not an acceptable way to force policy change. 'They' talk about these non-elected hereditary chiefs what about the elected chief the band members voted for? Am I the only one that finds it ironic that many of the non-native protesters while demanding we accept the hereditary chiefs as the leaders would freak out if Monarchist League of Canada demanded that the Queen has to overrule Canadian Parliament.

    When people get laid off, can't get to medical appointment,emergency vehicles unable to respond in a timely manner, shelves become bare etc These protestors will get their wish and cause people to get angry at the government but most people will be angry not because the government gave in but in that the government waited so long before acting.

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    New blockade this morning interrupting service between Macmillan Yard and Michigan. Looks like they've decided for Quebec that their homes and their poutine will be cold as that cuts off the bulk movement of propane out of Sarnia.

    Welcome to day 10 of the hostage taking...also known as Saturday.
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    No wonder the Liberals are afraid of gunowners, a couple hundred people that don’t know which bathroom to use have shut down the entire country.
    #wexit

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    And another blockade near Brownsville preventing the Amtrak passenger train from arriving into downtown Vancouver. Route to Lynn Creek is still open... I invite them to protest in the tunnel.
    "It is an absolute truism that law-abiding, armed citizens pose no threat to other law-abiding citizens."

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    Quote Originally Posted by M1917 Enfield View Post
    STFU you greazy little hippy.

    On another note, I guess the EPS was babysitting a bunch of scumbags protesting in down town redmonton yesterday. They should have just left them to their own devices rather than supporting them.
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