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    Ghost Guns

    July 13 2021
    by CSSA

    The Historical Definition

    “Ghost Gun” is the latest buzz-phrase touted by America’s ‘gun control’ advocates and the politicians who front for them, but what does it actually mean?

    To properly answer this question requires a short foray in Canada’s firearm registration history.

    In 1934, five years prior to the birth of Casper the Friendly Ghost, Canada implemented registration of handguns using a system called the Restricted Weapons Registration System (RWRS).

    The RWRS was a paper-based registry that, over the decades, became so riddled with errors that a 2001 government estimate stated 52% of all registered firearms in the RWRS did not actually exist.

    They are ‘ghost guns’ – firearms for which there is a registration certificate tied to a specific firearms owner – but that individual may no longer possess the firearm because it was legally transferred to a new owner or was exported to another country.

    Or it could mean that multiple records exist for the same gun – there could be literally dozens of ‘ghost gun’ registration records for a single handgun.

    This is prohibitively expensive and a horrendous waste of already scarce police resources so this was almost never done.

    To cover up for their ‘ghost gun’ fiasco and attempt to get an accurate record of how many Restricted handguns actually exist in Canada, Chrétien’s Liberals passed Bill C-68 – now known as the Firearms Act – which demanded every firearm previously registered in the failed RWRS system must be re-registered in their shiny new digital firearms registration system.

    This table from the Canadian Firearms Centre shows the result of the removal of these ‘ghost guns’ from the Liberals’ shiny new firearms registry.[i]

    Note the massive drop in Restricted/Prohibited firearms in 2002 and 2003. Once the RWRS system was mothballed, they stopped counting all those non-existent firearms.

    Adding to the troubles of the ‘new’ gun registry, the Liberal government of the day was so obsessed with processing registration requests they registered hair dryers, soldering guns and a host of other household appliances and tools as Restricted firearms – complete with registration certificates.

    And so the ‘ghost gun’ registration issue continues to this day.

    The Current Definition

    The most recent definition of ‘ghost gun’ is a firearm that is manufactured from a receiver blank or 80% receiver (where the blank still requires 20% of the machining necessary to make it functional).

    In June 2017, the RCMP issued a notice that all 80% receiver blanks were now classified as either a Restricted or Prohibited firearm.[ii]

    Receiver blanks are firearms as defined in Section 2 of the Criminal Code for the following reasons:

    1. A receiver blank is a nearly complete receiver of a firearm and falls within the adaptability clause of the definition of firearm.
    2. The manufacture of a receiver blank has proceeded to the point where it is no longer useful for any purpose other than the receiver of a firearm; receiver blanks are only destined to be firearm receivers.

    It’s important to note this finishing work requires specialized equipment and training in order to turn one of these 80% receiver blanks into a functional firearm so these ‘ghost guns’ are rare in Canada.

    Additionally, Section 99 of the Criminal Code says it is illegal to manufacture a firearm without the appropriate permit from the government.[iii]

    The 80% receiver blank issue is relevant to the American firearms debate due to the Second Amendment protections the U.S. Constitution affords its citizens, and this is where you’ll often see the ‘ghost gun’ debate raised.

    Should you see idiotic Canadian politicians using this new buzz-phrase say, in the much-anticipated upcoming election, for example, you can bet your last dollar they are pandering for votes on an issue they know nothing about.


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    Fact Check: Ghost Guns … There’s No Such Thing!

    July 16 2021

    As more blue counties and states across the country try desperately to get every gun registered under a “universal background check” system, the term “ghost gun” is being leveraged to its full potential.

    The new fake narrative focuses on the success of sheriff departments and other law enforcement taking these so-called “ghost guns” off the streets.

    You’ll notice they don’t talk about confiscating weapons from violent felons. If they did, some folks might start asking why those felons were let out of jail. So, never mind that. Their job is to keep you focused on the gun.

    Ghost Gun Hoax

    The term “ghost gun” was created by Anti-Gunners to scare people who don’t know any better into believing, that these spooky firearms are more deadly than others while re-directing your focus from their every-so-popular, police department de-funding efforts. The term “ghost gun” is nothing more than a nomenclature to describe a firearm that is untraceable but the term brings with it, a new, bone-chilling level of fright. Well, at least that’s what they are hoping for. The two-part plan is to introduce a new type of firearm for the emotionally challenged to fear while encouraging everyone to believe that untraceable firearms are unacceptable. In their pursuit to garner support for more gun restrictions, nationwide firearm registries, and red flag confiscations; the political left is willing to push “ghost guns” to anyone who will listen.

    Fear has always been the most important tool for the gun-grabbers. Diane Feinstein capitalized on irrational gun-fear by pushing the term “assault weapon” into the public forum, Obama and Hillary tried using the “weapons of war” narrative, and they all love using the fake term “gun-violence.” Now we are starting to see “ghost gun” take center stage. What’s scarier than ghosts? Be careful, they might possess you or lurk around your house in the middle of the night while everyone is sleeping. Anti-gun legislators, their lapdog media, and well-funded lobbyists will use anything that works to keep their fearful followers on the edge of their seats.

    Along with the fearsome will conjure up in response to the new scare-tactic, the idea that all guns “should be” registered with the federal government is implied in this new campaign.

    This is the Brady Campaign‘s agenda-correct description of so-called, “ghost guns.”

    There are no federal restrictions on who can buy ghost gun kits or parts;
    (As it should be.)

    There are no federal limitations on how many ghost gun kits or parts someone can buy;
    (This statement implies that there should be.)

    Ghost gun kits and parts are relatively cheap;
    (That’s great. Finally, affordable parts!)

    Ghost gun kits and parts are intentionally marketed as unregulated and untraceable to appeal to those who want to avoid background checks and/or are gun traffickers.
    (False. They’re not intentionally marketed to appeal to those who want to avoid background checks. This may be a “Brady Projection.” Maybe it’s nobody’s damn business and I just want to make my own gun.

    When the first 10 amendments to the Constitution were ratified, there were no serial numbers, background checks, magazine capacity restrictions, or gun-free zones.

    People didn’t register their guns with the government? As a matter of fact; the less the government knew, the better. The idea of gun ownership was that it was none of the government’s business. That narrative has been carefully shaped and crafted to represent the exact opposite. It is now the opinion of some that all gun ownership should be regulated and overseen by a federal agency and that all guns should be registered with the government. This is the exact opposite of what our Founding Fathers wanted. This rhetoric from the Brady campaign is designed to presuppose that guns “should” be registered. They want people to build an opinion off of a false premise.

    Here’s the plan. Scare the Hell out of people with the term “ghost gun,” imply that a gun registry is normal procedure and encourage voters to support the people who promise to keep them safe. Of course, that would be the Democrats. Don’t forget, in order to compile that nationwide gun registry, “universal background checks” must become law. So once they know where all the guns are, what’s next? This is where Red Flag Laws come in. Is it a coincidence that Red Flag Laws have been at the top of the gun-grabbers priority list? In order to confiscate guns, they need to know where they are, right? But before they can do that, they need to scare your neighbors into supporting that registry. Say hello to the “ghost gun.” It’s just another scary term designed to instill fear in people in the push to disarm real Americans.

    The 2nd Amendment is not a privilege.
    It’s your right.

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    I never got the "need" to trace the life history of murder weapons and implements. Do we do this for any other object?

    Aside from connecting an implement to a criminal and to a crime... what about all the other murder implements out there? If some beats someone else to death with a tree branch, do they figure out what tree it came from?
    Successfully escaped this crazy quack s***hole country ALIVE - 12/26/2017!!!

    Give your family tree a good shake and see if you have any dual citizenship that you can use to GTFO of this crazy quack s***hole country!

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    There wouldn't be a market for these things if the laws weren't effed up in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe6167 View Post
    I never got the "need" to trace the life history of murder weapons and implements. Do we do this for any other object?

    Aside from connecting an implement to a criminal and to a crime... what about all the other murder implements out there? If some beats someone else to death with a tree branch, do they figure out what tree it came from?
    They would trace it, ban the species and label the branch a variant.

    Do try to keep up, we can’t back the bus up for everyone

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