Do Canadian firearm owners need their own party?

[RangeBob]

willing to accept a Firearms Act and even licensing, provided that it is actually written reasonably (which it is NOT)

Proper : marked by suitability, rightness, or appropriateness

Many laws are written with excessive powers. That's not the problem.
The problem is when excessive powers are used improperly.

Nobody expected to take down Al Capone with tax evasion. But it was enough, and proper.

"You do not examine legislation in the light of the benefits it will convey if properly administered, but in the light of the wrongs it would do and the harms it would cause if improperly administered."
-- Lyndon B. Johnson

Right now, the Liberals are administering both the Firearms Act improperly (the OICs), and their powers (drafting of Bills) improperly.

It is a betrayal.

[762mm]

Proper : marked by suitability, rightness, or appropriateness

Many laws are written with excessive powers. That's not the problem.
The problem is when excessive powers are used improperly.

Nobody expected to take down Al Capone with tax evasion. But it was enough, and proper.

"You do not examine legislation in the light of the benefits it will convey if properly administered, but in the light of the wrongs it would do and the harms it would cause if improperly administered."
-- Lyndon B. Johnson

Right now, the Liberals are administering both the Firearms Act improperly (the OICs), and their powers (drafting of Bills) improperly.

It is a betrayal.

100% agreed.

[Stealthfall]

Agreed with your general feeling about the FA, however I'll play Devil's Advocate here : would you be OK if everyone (and I mean literally EVERYONE) was able to procure any firearm they desire, to carry it anywhere they like and only be punished for neglectful misuse, murder or mass murder AFTER they commit these acts?

Or should there be some reasonable mechanism to prevent these things, such as only allowing possession of firearms to sane people who aren't about to embark on a murderous rampage for the stupidest of reasons? Let's say through a lifetime FAC system...?


Let's keep it real amongst ourselves. You and I may be cool with providing our own personal security and the John Wick-like training it requires in a Wild West libertarian reality, but this does not include everyone in our families and social circles. Most of the 'other' folks out there prefer to solely rely on the police for their personal security and would rather not have to carry a gun and look over their shoulders 24/7. We may not dig it, but it's still the truth... and they outnumber us something like 10 to 1.

Hence why so many gun owners are actually reluctantly willing to accept a Firearms Act and even licensing, provided that it is actually written reasonably (which it is NOT) and provided that the FA is not left to be just a draconian piece of Lieberal propaganda legislation with totally biased & subjective rules in it... which it absolutely is right now.

Going to a US like system fill out a 4473, and background check, sure that would be great. Full allowance and carry, or the current pal system. None of those really will deter someone ready to go on a murderous rampage.

[RangeBob]

Just because it's useless, wasteful, has no measurable effect on public safety, is no reason to scrap it.

The very purpose of government is to establish and maintain things that are useless, wasteful and have no measurable beneficial effect.

Besides, it's not there for firearms owners, or even the average Canadian. It's there for people like Liberals because they prefer it. The Liberals and the establishment, prefer & demand middle class rip-offs through subsidies that preserve the pinnacles of our civilization. To suggest we get rid of the Firearms Act, it's barbarism; the end of state owned central planned bureaucrat elite common good austerity single party repressive inefficient civilization as we know it.

In case anyone missed it

1. a lot of that is sarcasm, and
2. "state owned central planned bureaucrat elite common good austerity single party repressive inefficient " is pretty much an attribute definition of a failed communist state